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"makes ad genuinely enjoyable" Really? That can't be an honest statement. I've never enjoyed someone interrupting me, even if it's for something good. When it'

"makes ad genuinely enjoyable" Really? That can't be an honest statement. I've never enjoyed someone interrupting me, even if it's for something good. When it's to ask me for money, even for something I eventually need, it's infuriating. When it's every minute, I'm ready to break something. Ads aren't recommendation systems, they're manipulation systems driven directly by money. If they were recommendation systems, they would try to figure out the general thing you want/need, show you several options, and suggest the best value regardless of how much a particular company paid. Instead, they try to figure out how likely you are to click something given to them by the highest bidders.

bertil 9y ago
Well, new songs on a radio are ads. Same for movie trailers. Some people watch Superbowl ads because they are a cultural product. In the context of the NewsFeed, you switch context between each story, so ads are not out of place — the way that they are in the middle of an article. I find the few ads that I see enjoyable because they generally cover services that I am interested in.
- jasonkostempski 9y ago
  Songs aren't ads (except the songs that are ads, of course), they are the final product, and I just got it for free. If I record the radio, I've gotten what I wanted (if the DJ doesn't talk over it at some point). That's why there's so much effort put into trying to stop "pirating" (DJs talking over songs is one of those measures). Movie trailers are certainly ads but, lately, I avoid trailers for movies I know I want to see even harder than regular ads (fingers in ears "LA LA LA" type stuff) because I know they're going to spoil everything. I can't believe how many times all the twists and final scenes are shown in trailers. The Ready Player One trailer even spoiled the book for me because SPOILER I hadn't learned about Aech's real identity yet, just seeing the cast was enough to accidentally deduce it (and not just 1, but 2, "surprising" aspects of the character). Superbowl ads did tend to be good before they became a "cultural product". Now they're all just Idiocracy level shit. Bit of a tangent on the "song is an ad" thing: Now that our personal information is the final product, like a song is, and enough people are finally starting to realize that can lead to trouble (yet still don't want to pay for anything with money) they want exactly what media companies have been seeking for decades, DMCA and DRM for their personal information. As we all know, DMCA and DRM suck for everyone involved. They don't stop copying and inconvenience both creators and "legitimate" users far more than "pirates". The reality is simple, if you don't want your information "product" to be consumed, just refuse to give it to anyone. Edit: "Consumed" is the wrong word, information isn't a consumable product in that it's not gone afterwards. What's the right word? Whatever it is, that's what we should be using to talk about the act of receiving information. Edit again: "Received" is better. duh.

bertil 9y ago

Well, new songs on a radio are ads. Same for movie trailers. Some people watch Superbowl ads because they are a cultural product. In the context of the NewsFeed, you switch context between each story, so ads are not out of place — the way that they are in the middle of an article. I find the few ads that I see enjoyable because they generally cover services that I am interested in.

jasonkostempski 9y ago
Songs aren't ads (except the songs that are ads, of course), they are the final product, and I just got it for free. If I record the radio, I've gotten what I wanted (if the DJ doesn't talk over it at some point). That's why there's so much effort put into trying to stop "pirating" (DJs talking over songs is one of those measures). Movie trailers are certainly ads but, lately, I avoid trailers for movies I know I want to see even harder than regular ads (fingers in ears "LA LA LA" type stuff) because I know they're going to spoil everything. I can't believe how many times all the twists and final scenes are shown in trailers. The Ready Player One trailer even spoiled the book for me because SPOILER I hadn't learned about Aech's real identity yet, just seeing the cast was enough to accidentally deduce it (and not just 1, but 2, "surprising" aspects of the character). Superbowl ads did tend to be good before they became a "cultural product". Now they're all just Idiocracy level shit. Bit of a tangent on the "song is an ad" thing: Now that our personal information is the final product, like a song is, and enough people are finally starting to realize that can lead to trouble (yet still don't want to pay for anything with money) they want exactly what media companies have been seeking for decades, DMCA and DRM for their personal information. As we all know, DMCA and DRM suck for everyone involved. They don't stop copying and inconvenience both creators and "legitimate" users far more than "pirates". The reality is simple, if you don't want your information "product" to be consumed, just refuse to give it to anyone. Edit: "Consumed" is the wrong word, information isn't a consumable product in that it's not gone afterwards. What's the right word? Whatever it is, that's what we should be using to talk about the act of receiving information. Edit again: "Received" is better. duh.