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All laws are problematic like this. That is why we have courts, judges, and juries to sort of specific applications. However, for the purpose of establishing a
by alpos 9y ago
All laws are problematic like this. That is why we have courts, judges, and juries to sort of specific applications.
However, for the purpose of establishing a rule, this really is straight forward if we don't mince words.
The author of the article pretty clearly wants to eliminate the incentive for invasive data collection so the ad forms to be banned are the ones that require invasive data collection in order to be of value.
The precise selectors that enable Facebook's ad platform to target ads at specific types of people and provide feedback on who saw what ad are the ones to be banned.
Ads placed on Facebook group pages and which do not track which specific users saw which ads, would not be banned because those are targeting a digital location rather than people who have specific characteristics.
Similarly, there is no reason to say of a given billboard "that is regionally targeted, let's ban that too" if the billboard is not currently capable of conducting eye gaze tracking on every passerby and matching car occupants to their license plate numbers and building a profile on where those people travel every day for the purpose of showing similar ads along their routes.
Any billboard that could do such things, should also be banned.
The Brave browser case would probably be borderline but so long as it is not providing feedback to the ads in the form of "this person-id saw your ad-id because they previously looked at x, y, and z" then it's probably fine.
If they start sharing the data they collect "locally" then that, too, should be banned. However, if they were to prompt the users with something like "would you like to submit feedback on this ad to the advertiser", that would of course be acceptable.
- BrendanEich 8y agoBrave won't share your data, we use a ZKP protocol, ANONIZE2 (2nd generation https://anonize.org/ https://anonize.org/) and we're aiming to decentralize via ZK-STArKs in state channels, or better, on future Ethereum. Sharing data even with consent leaks too much, and scale players can arbitrage and abuse users across media and devices, even with Brave protecting by default. So we won't share data even optionally. Users may share by forming first-party relationships with brands, but only if they choose to do so. We've tied the knot between user agent and user interests by (a) blocking by default, any private ads are opt-in per user; (b) all user identifying data stays on device and never goes to our servers in linkable form; (c) user gets at least as much revenue share as we get: 70% to our 30% for private tab ads; 15/15 split between us and user with 70% to the publisher if we get to filling publisher ad slots (note we use transparent, macro-auditable-on-blockchain fees, unlike most of the ad-tech parasites).
- alpos 8y agoNeat! I didn't know you found a way to revenue share with users. "Make money off of your own browsing", that's a really cool hook. Have you all considered an option to have Brave mine coins and split those proceeds? That could be an even better form of the experiment Salon.com is running. https://www.tweaktown.com/news/60862/salon-offers-users-crypto-mining-instead-online-ads/index.html https://www.tweaktown.com/news/60862/salon-offers-users-cryp...