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Hacker News: Hack everything! Hacking Company: We've hacked the iPhone and are selling the tech to law enforcement. Hacker News: Evil! Sleazy!

sametmax 9y ago
Yeah it's a bit like FOSS people not liking for profit companies using open source to make money or like people saying you have freedom of speech but what you say offense them. Having your cake and all that.
wool_gather 9y ago
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Hacker News: Hack everything! Cracking company: We've cracked the iPhone and are selling the tech to law enforcement. Ref: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/meaning-of-hack.html http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/meaning-of-hack.html http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cracker.html http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cracker.html
- da_chicken 9y ago
  I'm sorry, but it's no longer the 1980s. In plain English, hacking now means "gain unauthorized access to a computer." You may not like it, but English is defined by usage, not whatever culture the one-time jargon was inherited from.
  - wool_gather 9y ago
    Regardless, the point is that the parent's satirical accusation of hypocrisy is invalid because it's using the same word "hack" for two very different meanings.
    - da_chicken 9y ago
      I mean, yes, that was the joke.
      - josefresco 9y ago
        This guy gets it.
- josefresco 9y ago
  Really?!? Your response to my lame joke about Hacker New hypocrisy is to define hacking vs cracking for me? Thanks man.
SmellyGeekBoy 9y ago
If you think this is a website about hacking, you have been very much misinformed...
- josefresco 9y ago
  Hint: I've been here a while, and do very much get what HN is about. I simplified my argument to make a point: the hypocrisy of Hacker New "users" (including myself) when it comes to hacking (both in the broad sense and specific techniques) when it comes to law enforcement.

sametmax 9y ago

Yeah it's a bit like FOSS people not liking for profit companies using open source to make money or like people saying you have freedom of speech but what you say offense them. Having your cake and all that.

wool_gather 9y ago

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Hacker News: Hack everything! Cracking company: We've cracked the iPhone and are selling the tech to law enforcement. Ref: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/meaning-of-hack.html http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/meaning-of-hack.html http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cracker.html http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cracker.html

da_chicken 9y ago
I'm sorry, but it's no longer the 1980s. In plain English, hacking now means "gain unauthorized access to a computer." You may not like it, but English is defined by usage, not whatever culture the one-time jargon was inherited from.
- wool_gather 9y ago
  Regardless, the point is that the parent's satirical accusation of hypocrisy is invalid because it's using the same word "hack" for two very different meanings.
  - da_chicken 9y ago
    I mean, yes, that was the joke.
    - josefresco 9y ago
      This guy gets it.
josefresco 9y ago
Really?!? Your response to my lame joke about Hacker New hypocrisy is to define hacking vs cracking for me? Thanks man.

SmellyGeekBoy 9y ago

If you think this is a website about hacking, you have been very much misinformed...

josefresco 9y ago
Hint: I've been here a while, and do very much get what HN is about. I simplified my argument to make a point: the hypocrisy of Hacker New "users" (including myself) when it comes to hacking (both in the broad sense and specific techniques) when it comes to law enforcement.