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> Apple Watch wasn't a hot seller Is it a hot seller ? I don't know, but I don't see many smartwatches around me. The only one person I know who has one and we

> Apple Watch wasn't a hot seller Is it a hot seller ? I don't know, but I don't see many smartwatches around me. The only one person I know who has one and wears it is the boss of a friend and they make iOS apps specifically. But I don't have any numbers, and I can't find really any...

Twisell 9y ago
Apple Watch is the to selling smartwatch now as far as I know. So even if this is a niche market, Apple Watch is not a failure. Is smartwatch a hardware segment that will last is yet another question.
votepaunchy 9y ago
Apple was the #1 global watchmaker by revenue before Apple Watch 3. https://www.wareable.com/apple/watch-sales-rolex-tim-cook-556 https://www.wareable.com/apple/watch-sales-rolex-tim-cook-55...
- jandrese 9y ago
  That statistic seem cherry picked. Their competitors either sell absolutely tiny numbers of luxury watches or are basically commodities and operate with relatively thin margins. Competition in this space with both volume and profit margin is what? Rolex? Apple is basically a corporate behemoth that moved in next to the Mom & Pop boutiques.
  - kgwgk 9y ago
    What would be the not-cherry-picked statistic then?
    - jandrese 9y ago
      Total units shipped. Gross revenue for shipped units. Total profit earned is basically a measure of brand loyalty and the ability of Apple to mark up their products.
threeseed 9y ago
8 million units shipped in 4Q 2017. 57.5% year on year growth. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/01/idc-data-apple-watch-on-top-of-wearables-market.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/01/idc-data-apple-watch-on-top-...
- jrimbault 9y ago
  In the same article they say the market of wearables also has less choice and other makers are already pulling out.
  - threeseed 9y ago
    But that isn't a statement at all on the strength of the wearables market. It is just as likely to be a repeat of the smartphone market where we saw that Apple's ability to take all of the margins from an industry caused competitors to exit.
  - y_molodtsov 9y ago
    Other manufacturers are pulling out since there's no new chips for the watches being developed, so it's getting much harder for them to compete with Apple and Samsung, the only companies able to produce their own chips for those.

Twisell 9y ago

Apple Watch is the to selling smartwatch now as far as I know. So even if this is a niche market, Apple Watch is not a failure. Is smartwatch a hardware segment that will last is yet another question.

votepaunchy 9y ago

Apple was the #1 global watchmaker by revenue before Apple Watch 3. https://www.wareable.com/apple/watch-sales-rolex-tim-cook-556 https://www.wareable.com/apple/watch-sales-rolex-tim-cook-55...

jandrese 9y ago
That statistic seem cherry picked. Their competitors either sell absolutely tiny numbers of luxury watches or are basically commodities and operate with relatively thin margins. Competition in this space with both volume and profit margin is what? Rolex? Apple is basically a corporate behemoth that moved in next to the Mom & Pop boutiques.
- kgwgk 9y ago
  What would be the not-cherry-picked statistic then?
  - jandrese 9y ago
    Total units shipped. Gross revenue for shipped units. Total profit earned is basically a measure of brand loyalty and the ability of Apple to mark up their products.

threeseed 9y ago

8 million units shipped in 4Q 2017. 57.5% year on year growth. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/01/idc-data-apple-watch-on-top-of-wearables-market.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/01/idc-data-apple-watch-on-top-...

jrimbault 9y ago
In the same article they say the market of wearables also has less choice and other makers are already pulling out.
- threeseed 9y ago
  But that isn't a statement at all on the strength of the wearables market. It is just as likely to be a repeat of the smartphone market where we saw that Apple's ability to take all of the margins from an industry caused competitors to exit.
- y_molodtsov 9y ago
  Other manufacturers are pulling out since there's no new chips for the watches being developed, so it's getting much harder for them to compete with Apple and Samsung, the only companies able to produce their own chips for those.