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> Law-abiding citizens: Please do NOT download. Thank you. I am not for piracy, but yes, let's all keep using SMS which has been compromised (and not fixed) fo

> Law-abiding citizens: Please do NOT download. Thank you. I am not for piracy, but yes, let's all keep using SMS which has been compromised (and not fixed) for the last 30 years, and let's not use anything that gives us any security/privacy. All because some 0.001% of all users are stupid. Thanks but no thanks Mr theoutline.com > “Telegram is also very popular here,” a Russia-based channel owner I remember reading/watching in the news how Rusisa wants to outlaw Telegram, not because of piracy, but because the gov cannot spy on its people... Who does this article really work for?

ska80 9y ago
> I remember reading/watching in the news how Rusisa wants to outlaw Telegram, not because of piracy, but because the gov cannot spy on its people... It is actually happing now. Telegram can be blocked even today: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rbc.ru%2Ftextonlines%2F13%2F04%2F2018%2F5acf76109a794775685fa03d%3Ffrom%3Dmain https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=h...
- chupasaurus 9y ago
  One minute after your comment a court made a decision to block Telegram in Russia.
carlacheers 9y ago
You're assuming that if an app offers you encrypted conversations, it is okay for it to let a cottage industry of piracy marketplaces to thrive. If that was an okay thing to do, WhatsApp, Apple, WeChat and others would allow it to. The article illustrates that Telegram has a piracy problem. Piracy is not a cool thing. Anyone could search for "movies" etc terms and end up on these channels. They are open and you don't have to join them to read the content. The least Telegram could do is monitor open channels. Check Twitter, and other forums, there are countless posts from creators asking Telegram to take down the channel, but Telegram doesn't seem to care. If these creators were able to find their own stuff floating around on these channels, Telegram should be able to do that, too. Don't start the encryption debate, that is not what this article is trying to talk about.
hnarn 9y ago
>Who does this article really work for? An important point. Criticism so far of Telegram has almost exclusively been of the fact that they refuse to hand over encryption keys to governments. For P2P piracy, there are more effective and more popular options than Telegram. When encryption is being debated, you can be sure a few cards will always be played, among them are: intellectual property (piracy), black market commerce, and child pornography.
gandhium 9y ago
> Who does this article really work for? Judging from number of Russian references - I'd say it's trying to whitewash recent Telegram ban. Like "See - it was all piracy, bad Telegram, bad!"

ska80 9y ago

> I remember reading/watching in the news how Rusisa wants to outlaw Telegram, not because of piracy, but because the gov cannot spy on its people... It is actually happing now. Telegram can be blocked even today: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rbc.ru%2Ftextonlines%2F13%2F04%2F2018%2F5acf76109a794775685fa03d%3Ffrom%3Dmain https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=h...

chupasaurus 9y ago
One minute after your comment a court made a decision to block Telegram in Russia.

carlacheers 9y ago

You're assuming that if an app offers you encrypted conversations, it is okay for it to let a cottage industry of piracy marketplaces to thrive. If that was an okay thing to do, WhatsApp, Apple, WeChat and others would allow it to. The article illustrates that Telegram has a piracy problem. Piracy is not a cool thing. Anyone could search for "movies" etc terms and end up on these channels. They are open and you don't have to join them to read the content. The least Telegram could do is monitor open channels. Check Twitter, and other forums, there are countless posts from creators asking Telegram to take down the channel, but Telegram doesn't seem to care. If these creators were able to find their own stuff floating around on these channels, Telegram should be able to do that, too. Don't start the encryption debate, that is not what this article is trying to talk about.

hnarn 9y ago

>Who does this article really work for? An important point. Criticism so far of Telegram has almost exclusively been of the fact that they refuse to hand over encryption keys to governments. For P2P piracy, there are more effective and more popular options than Telegram. When encryption is being debated, you can be sure a few cards will always be played, among them are: intellectual property (piracy), black market commerce, and child pornography.

gandhium 9y ago

> Who does this article really work for? Judging from number of Russian references - I'd say it's trying to whitewash recent Telegram ban. Like "See - it was all piracy, bad Telegram, bad!"