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I don't have a country. That's a manmade concept that is forced upon me against my will.

adwn 9y ago
> I don't have a country. Is there a country in which spend the majority of your time? If yes, then that's your country. Don't like it? Move to another one or get politically active. > That's a manmade concept that is forced upon me against my will. Nearly everything in our day-to-day lives is a manmade concept – that doesn't make it any less real.
- rorykoehler 9y ago
  >Is there a country in which spend the majority of your time? That changes regularly enough. Just because i like a place doesn't mean it's my country. I think you're conflating geography with political structures. I feel at home everywhere I've been and i don't quite understand the insatiable jingoism because all places and people are great and not so great in equal measure for various reasons. That said I'm not naive enough to expect it to change and if it were to change i can't really even see a pathway for that to happen. It only takes one person to spit in the punch to ruin it for everyone.
vasili111 9y ago
So no one is protecting your rights and property? There are no emergency service, firefighters and other public services that you directly benefit from?
- nickik 9y ago
  So if somebody breaks into yoir house takes your money you cant complain because that guy sometimes cleans the house or buys cable? Accusing people who are not pro-government of hypocracy because the use public services is absurd. You cant not pay my taxes and opt out of government services.
- rorykoehler 9y ago
  There are and i happily pay my taxes but not happy about them being spent to kill people id probably be friends with if i met them in real life.
ben_w 9y ago
I feel the same way — my identity is not at all attached to the nationality listed in my passport — but in the context of working for a defence-sector corporation, the argument still applies. Whoever the corporation sells stuff to is, for the purpose of the argument, “your” country.

adwn 9y ago

> I don't have a country. Is there a country in which spend the majority of your time? If yes, then that's your country. Don't like it? Move to another one or get politically active. > That's a manmade concept that is forced upon me against my will. Nearly everything in our day-to-day lives is a manmade concept – that doesn't make it any less real.

rorykoehler 9y ago
>Is there a country in which spend the majority of your time? That changes regularly enough. Just because i like a place doesn't mean it's my country. I think you're conflating geography with political structures. I feel at home everywhere I've been and i don't quite understand the insatiable jingoism because all places and people are great and not so great in equal measure for various reasons. That said I'm not naive enough to expect it to change and if it were to change i can't really even see a pathway for that to happen. It only takes one person to spit in the punch to ruin it for everyone.

vasili111 9y ago

So no one is protecting your rights and property? There are no emergency service, firefighters and other public services that you directly benefit from?

nickik 9y ago
So if somebody breaks into yoir house takes your money you cant complain because that guy sometimes cleans the house or buys cable? Accusing people who are not pro-government of hypocracy because the use public services is absurd. You cant not pay my taxes and opt out of government services.
rorykoehler 9y ago
There are and i happily pay my taxes but not happy about them being spent to kill people id probably be friends with if i met them in real life.

ben_w 9y ago

I feel the same way — my identity is not at all attached to the nationality listed in my passport — but in the context of working for a defence-sector corporation, the argument still applies. Whoever the corporation sells stuff to is, for the purpose of the argument, “your” country.