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You'd think minimum wage should be observed even if you're allowed a nap.

by lokopodium 9y ago

chrischen 9y ago
Recent studies released show Rideshare drivers do make more than minimum wage (per hour).
- phrz 9y ago
  Can you substantiate that? Thanks in advance.
- cuckcuckspruce 9y ago
  After you take depreciation, wear-and-tear, insurance, and maintenance into account?
- bkor 9y ago
  A Dutch journalist drove for Uber for various months. They advertise that drivers can make loads of money. After expenses, the journalist barely made more than minimum wage. He also found that drivers often handed out business cards to encourage repeat customers to pay them directly (avoid taxes+Uber, etc). Further, customers abused drivers various times (e.g. it's used as a cheap moving service incl expecting you to carry boxes), etc. Entire article (use Google Translate): https://www.volkskrant.nl/kijkverder/2017/uber/ https://www.volkskrant.nl/kijkverder/2017/uber/
  - HenryBemis 9y ago
    I like Dutch people. I really do. They have this sense of honesty, that if they don't like something, they'll blatanly tell you "that sucks, throw it away and make a new one". No sugar-coating involved. That said, Dutch people tend to be (let me say it nicely) 'very considerate on their spending patterns'. The biggest object I've moved with Uber was a 40" TV which I carried and placed in/removed from the trunk.
  - ed_balls 9y ago
    The thing is he was a clueless journalist. Uber drivers with experience know where to hangout and which rides to take to maximize profit, know where drive to skip the traffic. They often drive when there is a surcharge and know when to take breaks. They know which car would be best for driving e.g. Skoda Rapid with factory LPG can reduce the cost of the fuel. They often share a car between 2 or 3 people. You can drive in New Year's Eve for 4x the price. There are a lot of ways to optimize. What I know from talking to people is that the Uber drivers used to make above average wage after taxes and expenses. Now Uber takes a bigger cut and there is competition, so it's below average. Also you get a car with all expenses paid. I think the problem is that in Europe the state covers healthcare and other benefit so Uber drivers are doing alright here.

You'd think minimum wage should be observed even if you're allowed a nap.

chrischen 9y ago

Recent studies released show Rideshare drivers do make more than minimum wage (per hour).

phrz 9y ago
Can you substantiate that? Thanks in advance.
cuckcuckspruce 9y ago
After you take depreciation, wear-and-tear, insurance, and maintenance into account?
bkor 9y ago
A Dutch journalist drove for Uber for various months. They advertise that drivers can make loads of money. After expenses, the journalist barely made more than minimum wage. He also found that drivers often handed out business cards to encourage repeat customers to pay them directly (avoid taxes+Uber, etc). Further, customers abused drivers various times (e.g. it's used as a cheap moving service incl expecting you to carry boxes), etc. Entire article (use Google Translate): https://www.volkskrant.nl/kijkverder/2017/uber/ https://www.volkskrant.nl/kijkverder/2017/uber/
- HenryBemis 9y ago
  I like Dutch people. I really do. They have this sense of honesty, that if they don't like something, they'll blatanly tell you "that sucks, throw it away and make a new one". No sugar-coating involved. That said, Dutch people tend to be (let me say it nicely) 'very considerate on their spending patterns'. The biggest object I've moved with Uber was a 40" TV which I carried and placed in/removed from the trunk.
- ed_balls 9y ago
  The thing is he was a clueless journalist. Uber drivers with experience know where to hangout and which rides to take to maximize profit, know where drive to skip the traffic. They often drive when there is a surcharge and know when to take breaks. They know which car would be best for driving e.g. Skoda Rapid with factory LPG can reduce the cost of the fuel. They often share a car between 2 or 3 people. You can drive in New Year's Eve for 4x the price. There are a lot of ways to optimize. What I know from talking to people is that the Uber drivers used to make above average wage after taxes and expenses. Now Uber takes a bigger cut and there is competition, so it's below average. Also you get a car with all expenses paid. I think the problem is that in Europe the state covers healthcare and other benefit so Uber drivers are doing alright here.