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Someone has entered an AI in a Japanese mayoral race
- partycoder 9y agoAI is a vague term. A Pong bot is AI. A Roomba vacuum cleaner crashing into walls runs on AI. Possibly your fuzzy logic powered washing machine could also be considered to run on AI. Sophia, the "robot with a citizenship" from Saudi Arabia is a glorified chatbot combined with Furby grade technology for facial expressions, but received worldwide press coverage. This must be some similar thing to take advantage of the technologically unsavvy and click-happy Internet people. The only reality here is that the people covering this fake robot mayor from Japan will make tens of thousands of dollars from ad revenue.
- interfixus 9y agoWe probably need a term like artificial consciousness to signify the meaning that AI used to have, before it entered a terminal inflation cycle.
- adrianN 9y agoI think there is actually the opposite effect in action. There used to be a time when doing simple arithmetic was thought of an expression of intelligence. When machines learned how to do it much better than humans, this notion was quickly dropped.
- bluejay2387 9y agoThis got me thinking about the whole “What is AI” issue again. I decided to post my highly opinionated thoughts… For most of its existence as a “field of knowledge” AI has been shepherded by the Academic community. This same community likes to throw around inside jokes like “If it works is isn’t AI” and such. If you boil down all the discussions that take place over “what is AI” online and at conventions, a pictures emerges something along the lines that to the Academic community, AI is what makes an interesting research question. This has the unfortunate side affect that the definition not only changes constantly but that it can also be quite myopic. Expert systems, discussed in the 80’s as a massively successful branch of AI, was kicked out of the field in the 90’s -- at least until recently when the Academic community figured they hadn’t really exhausted all research possibilities and it was reincarnated as Answer Set Programming. Geofrey Hinton (one of the most influential figures in AI in the last 50 years) stated in a talk he gave at the 2015 AAAI conference “Unless it has 100,000 attributes it’s not AI, it’s applied statistics”, essentially demoting most of all AI ever researched or developed. I even been involved in discussions where the question as to if Machine Learning is really AI any longer was brought up (though everyone seems to agree that Deep Learning is AI). I find it odd and fascinating that a community responsible for developing an area of knowledge is so aggressive at denying everything it achieves. I can’t think of any other fields that approaches governance of their domain this way. Things get more complicated by the fact that AI has different definitions depending on where you are working on it. AI in manufacturing tends to break down into satisfiability, constraint programming, and optimization – none of which are considered ‘fields’ of AI for the most part. In these cases, the pipeline (the process that results from combining all the steps in AI solution) is referred to as AI, not the individual techniques applied in that process. In the Games industry AI is the part of a game engine that makes decisions regardless of what technique you are using to achieve that. I actually think those definitions are probably more consistent and more practical. Because I lack a better term for it, I’ve always referred to terms like “AI” by my own made-up phrase “problem words”. These are words that were made to refer to a challenge that practitioners in a field commonly run into but that is not created from an effort to make a scientifically precise definition. I lump “Deep Learning”, “Big Data”, and “Cloud Computing” into this category. Because the scope of what we find to be a problem always changes, so does the meaning of the term. Big Data 10 years ago is not what Big Data is today as an example. These kinds of terms NEVER have a final definition. Lastly, I find it anecdotally interesting that during the registration process for some AI conventions the question of “How do you define AI” is on the registration form.
- ghkbrew 9y agoArtificial General Intelligence (AGI) seems to be the most common term for that.
- SenHeng 9y agohttp://ai-mayor.com http://ai-mayor.com Website of the AI's (owner's) campaign site.
- John_KZ 9y ago>If you assumed that artificial intelligence itself couldn't run for mayor, you're absolutely not wrong; that just happens to be where things get truly interesting. The two-person team pushing Michihito Matsuda consists of both Tetsuzo Matsumoto, the vice president of mobile provider Softbank ($74 billion revenue), and former Google Japan representative Norio Murakami. So what they claim is artificial intelligence and automation is actually the long arm of 2 huge conglomerates. Seems like a persisting trend.
- rafdsajasas_11 9y agoIt's an awfully apt metaphor for many elected government officials.
- 24gttghh 9y agoMetaphor? That's literally what it is now. I see no difference.
- waldotime 9y agoThis is just marketing for black mirror season 5, right?
- snarfy 9y agoI'm all for replacing our elected officials with small shell scripts. We're automating everything else, why not government? I could fill out a questionnaire answering hundreds of questions to use as a reference on how I might vote. That data could then be used for voting on subsequent laws. Why have a representative government when the human doesn't actually represent you. A small algorithm would be a much better representation of you.
- adrianN 9y agoDo you really trust feature extraction from legalese enough to hand your voting power to some AI? Do you have the time to read hundreds of real laws in order to provide it with real training data? Do you trust that your fellow citizens will do the same?
- CrystalLangUser 9y agoIt’d still likely represent you better than a regular politician.
- noir_lord 9y agoOr misrepresent everyone more equally. Currently they just misrepresent people without checkbooks.
- adrianN 9y agoNo, it represents the people who know how to write laws to mean one thing to a lawyer and another thing to the AI.
- ben_w 9y agoThe staus quo appears to be getting laws passed because they have positive sounding names such as “The PATRIOT Act” and that the people suggesting the laws made the correct choice of teams red or blue. I didn’t want to learn psychology because I didn’t want to lose the magic of not knowing how my mind works. Now I’m learning it to stop people — myself and others — from deluding me. I’m a neural network too, just an organic one rather than a silicon one.
- ed_blackburn 9y agoUnfortunate Conflict Of Evidence - reporting for duty!
- arethuza 9y agoClearly someone was Stood Far Back When The Gravitas Was Handed Out
- GCU-Empiricist 9y agoI'm going to have to snoop around and see if I can find any specs on this, and the lawfare of if it can be elected. How's your simming of this situation going?
- c_shu 9y agoCould it be a chance of political corruption even if all source code and data are open?
- rootsudo 9y ago愛AI!
- anoplus 9y agoIs this AI open source? If not, I think it is outrageous that any AI serving in a public role is not open source.
- coldacid 9y agoAnd here I thought that Beatless was just anime, not real life in the making.
- 3chelon 9y agoI've been expecting this ever since I read Robert Heinlein's "The Moon is Harsh Mistress" as a kid. In this age of elections being influenced by social media botnets, it's simply too close to the truth.
- 3chelon 9y agoInteresting that this showed up today also: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43639704 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43639704
- shackenberg 9y agoAre we sure that is not satire?
- shackenberg 9y agoHow is this even legal? Doesn't one need to be a natural person to register? Can I enter my toaster?
- beager 9y agoIf your toaster can collect 500 signatures door-to-door, I don’t see why not.
- neillyons 9y agoI think it is a publicity stunt.
- xab9 9y agoI think medical science hasn't yet realised that being a politician is a treatable illness. You know, like how society tolerates smokers - it's an addiction, it's just actively encouraged and very profitable despite the actual loss of citizens. First we can replace the politicians with sophisticated emulators (in the vein of bash scripts) then we can come up with even better algorithms, ones that would stop stealing or facilitating corruption. We could call that version two or something.
- forrrealman 9y agoStop with the clickbait: an "AI" is not running for mayor. At best, if we want to stick with the term "AI" we may say "someone has entered an AI in a Japanese mayoral race". This kind of misleading hype is how previous AI winters happened... (and I haven't even addressed the capabilities of this "AI").
- logicallee 9y agodidn't a T-800 Model 101 autonomously decide to run for, and be elected to serve as governor of California for 8 years?
- forrrealman 9y agoHey, a step in the right direction! Thank you mods. Now whether or not Michihito (the "AI") actually qualifies as 'artifically intelligent' is an entirely different debate altogether. Presumably voters would actually be electing the two people pushing the effort and writing the code. But I guess you have to use the word AI if you want any votes...
- beager 9y agoI believe AI/ML can reduce government costs and boost efficiency by automating staff duties. But if I leave actual governing to a machine, I am left with an entirely new, but not necessarily smaller attack surface for corruption. Traditionally: monied interest buys influence, maybe in the form of a steak dinner for the mayor. AI Gov’t Future: monied interest buys asymmetric understanding of GovBot5000, perhaps by hiring an AI researcher or data firm to figure out how to exploit flaws in the algorithm. If we tackles issues of inefficiency, opacity, and corruption in government first, then I think we can tackle judgment and representation, which are less “on fire” things imo.
- mtgx 9y agoIs the AI running for mayor, or the people controlling the AI are?
- chimmy_chonga 9y agoThere's a very popular young adult novel out called Scythe written by Neal Shusterman. In this novel there is a benevolent cloud-based AI in charge of ruling over the whole world named The Thunderhead ( because The Cloud wasn't impressive enough). It's cool to see part of this fictional world coming to life
- psyc 9y agoI assume that concepts descended from 'policy' and 'enforcement' will gradually be delegated to AI. Just as I assume more people will spend more time in VR, and a later generation will not make the same strong distinction between this reality dream, and the VR dreams. I feel technologists tend toward a kind of over-skepticism, relative to scifi writers, because they know too much about the status quo, and they're used to getting value from drawing on that knowledge. But I wonder if there was any practicing technologist alive in 1960, who could have understood or predicted that we would have, e.g., unbiased photorealistic rendering in whatever color space you like. Or that pulling a piece of glass out of your pocket to have a face-to-face conversation with people around the world would be a passe thing any 12 year old does.
- Florin_Andrei 9y ago> this reality dream Plato would agree. But he would also say the dream is in your head. The thing is how to wake up from it. Reality is out there, where the material stuff is. Just shifting from one dream to another dream seems like a failure to me. I hope we don't go that way.
- scrumper 9y agoThe three claims seem massively overstated and way beyond my understanding of the state of the art. How can AI “break down the positives and negatives” of a petition and predict its future effect if implemented or rejected? I’m I guess willing (ableit horrified) to be shown to be wrong, but this looks ridiculous as presented here.
- alexandercrohde 9y agoThis is so unreasonably worded that I'm flagging it.
- X6S1x6Okd1st 9y agoThis article is really lacking in substance
- cgriswald 9y ago> You see, if the current nominee Michihito Matsuda happens to earn the most votes during this election, that would make them the world's first AI (Artificial Intelligence) mayor, ushering in a new wave of possibilities for the district. I understand that 'it' is an inappropriate pronoun when describing people of unidentified gender (although I still find singular 'they' abhorrent) , but an AI is very clearly an 'it'...
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- RunningDroid 9y ago>(although I still find singular 'they' abhorrent) Is there any particular reason or is it just a matter of taste? I personally prefer the singular 'they' because I don't think any of the pronouns invented for the purpose will gain any significant traction.
- gfo 9y agoComments about the substance of the article aside, there's always going to be some risk of bias in AI which is why I'd argue one should never vote for an AI like this, especially if it takes the normal route of a politician and states that it's working for you. Also, at what point does it decide to wage war or enlist a militia when the trolls dupe it into thinking it's what the majority want? Surely war has to be allowed at least somewhere in the algorithm - especially if you were implementing this at a nation level.
- Chaebixi 9y agoI'm kinda getting tired of how the word "AI" is getting thrown around so much nowadays. It's used to refer to chatbots or analysis programs in a way that evokes an intelligent strong-AI. I'm looking forward to the next winter.
- psyc 9y agoYour conception might be narrower than the term.
- Chaebixi 9y agoWhen we're talking about something being "entered into a political race," I don't think it is. In reality, this is about the same as running a dog as candidate for mayor.
- Pica_soO 9y agoMay i introduce you to the CASIO AI- its a portable intelligent device, capable of doing math in milliseconds, that normal humans can only comprehend and reproduce after years of learning and studying. It wants to be refered to as Sir, in the third person... Compiled Stochastics becomes AI the moment it is able to move into new fields by not learning by mimicry but by dreamed up scenarios from noise and able to prune failing scenarios from itself. Until then it is not AI, its experience in a Box.
- thedirt0115 9y agoThe article didn't seem to answer the one question I really had -- is this legal??? "If you assumed that artificial intelligence itself couldn't run for mayor, you're absolutely not wrong; that just happens to be where things get truly interesting." And then the author doesn't actually answer whether the AI can or can't run for mayor. I'm wondering if they're taking advantage of some weird loophole in the law that doesn't require the mayor to be a citizen/human there.
- dkobran 9y agoNext year the AI will enter the mayoral race itself :)
- bsder 9y agoIf they entered Hatsune Miku (a Vocaloid), she would probably win ...
- lovetrump 9y agoI like AI mayors, as long as I control the code...