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I'm not reasoning through analogies like yours. I was reasoning from principles. Your analogies might be nice sound bites but don't have much value in describin

I'm not reasoning through analogies like yours. I was reasoning from principles. Your analogies might be nice sound bites but don't have much value in describing the world. Your problems with SESTA may be valid but that's a completely separate question from whether or not shutting backpage down would limit human trafficking. You're arguing from mood affiliation (that SESTA is bad and therefore anything associated with it is bad) and not against the principles.

nickthemagicman 9y ago
You're arguing from poor statistics. Backpage was the second largest classifieds ads service on the internet. Thousands+ of ads per week... It blows my mind that people are fine with destroying the foundation of the free internet for something that's a minor statistical outlier drop in the bucket of activities on these sites no matter how horrible the activity may be. In related news we've been spending 7.6 billion a year on the TSA after 9.11 to prevent terrorism....
- creddit 9y ago
  It was involved in 73 percent of all child trafficking cases reported to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. The proportion of that site's activities that are related to illegal activities is completely irrelevant. It may be that 0.001% of the classifieds on Backpage were human trafficking related but if that made up even 10% of human trafficking cases this is a slam dunk success in terms of stopping human trafficking. In related news we've been spending 7.6 billion a year on the TSA after 9.11 to prevent terrorism.... True and that's a terrible waste of money but completely unrelated to this. It blows my mind that someone thinks allowing terrible illegal activity in the name of some mysterious concept of internet freedom is a good thing. Certainly you don't seem particularly concerned with the freedom of those being trafficked in the physical world.
  - nickthemagicman 9y ago
    Terrorism and Human Trafficking are related in the sense that they're tiny statistical blips.. miniscule drops in the ocean of human activities. However they sound so horrible that people are perfectly willing to sacrifice massive civil liberties to stop them. They have a 'mood affililation' and will do anything to stop these activities without looking at the principles of what they're doing. I'm concerned about the freedom of those being trafficked..I just think theres other ways to help them that don't involve eroding the foundation of the free web.

nickthemagicman 9y ago

You're arguing from poor statistics. Backpage was the second largest classifieds ads service on the internet. Thousands+ of ads per week... It blows my mind that people are fine with destroying the foundation of the free internet for something that's a minor statistical outlier drop in the bucket of activities on these sites no matter how horrible the activity may be. In related news we've been spending 7.6 billion a year on the TSA after 9.11 to prevent terrorism....

creddit 9y ago
It was involved in 73 percent of all child trafficking cases reported to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. The proportion of that site's activities that are related to illegal activities is completely irrelevant. It may be that 0.001% of the classifieds on Backpage were human trafficking related but if that made up even 10% of human trafficking cases this is a slam dunk success in terms of stopping human trafficking. In related news we've been spending 7.6 billion a year on the TSA after 9.11 to prevent terrorism.... True and that's a terrible waste of money but completely unrelated to this. It blows my mind that someone thinks allowing terrible illegal activity in the name of some mysterious concept of internet freedom is a good thing. Certainly you don't seem particularly concerned with the freedom of those being trafficked in the physical world.
- nickthemagicman 9y ago
  Terrorism and Human Trafficking are related in the sense that they're tiny statistical blips.. miniscule drops in the ocean of human activities. However they sound so horrible that people are perfectly willing to sacrifice massive civil liberties to stop them. They have a 'mood affililation' and will do anything to stop these activities without looking at the principles of what they're doing. I'm concerned about the freedom of those being trafficked..I just think theres other ways to help them that don't involve eroding the foundation of the free web.