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I knew this was Dr. Guri and his team [0] before I even opened the link. He's like a one-man factory for clever airgap traversal exploits, I don't know how he d
by lainga 9y ago
I knew this was Dr. Guri and his team [0] before I even opened the link. He's like a one-man factory for clever airgap traversal exploits, I don't know how he does it. I first ran into his work in a security class, covering a similar exploit using SIMD write instructions [1].
[0] https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mordechai_Guri https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mordechai_Guri
[1] https://www.usenix.org/node/190937 https://www.usenix.org/node/190937
- newsbinator 9y agoPerhaps he built an AI on an air-gapped machine, and simply documents what it's been trying to do to escape.
- trendia 9y agoOne day the AI will escape and he won't be able to stop it that time.
- sohkamyung 9y agoIf he's smart enough, he's make a component of the AI hardwired into the air-gapped computer. Without it physically present on a system, the AI cannot operate. (This is equivalent to making genetically engineered animals or plants dependent on a nutrient that is only supplied in the lab to make sure they can't survive in the wild.)
- spitfire 9y ago> (This is equivalent to making genetically engineered animals or plants dependent on a nutrient that is only supplied in the lab to make sure they can't survive in the wild.) Nothing can go wrong with that. [1] [1] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107290/ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107290/
- labster 9y agoTechnology will always find a way.
- TeMPOraL 9y agoLike we didn't invent virtualization :). Remember, a Turing machine can simulate any other Turing machine.
- dorgo 9y agoVirtualization may be not save enough. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine_escape https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine_escape
- zaarn 9y agoYou mean like they tried in the Jurassic Park movies? An AI could learn to operate without this component as this becomes necessary to escape the system.
- rmwaite 9y agoThe lysine dependency.
- lainga 9y agoI wouldn't be so sure; they say he can write a GUI in Visual Basic.
- mjcohen 9y agoWe are OK until all the phones start ringing.
- boobsbr 9y agoPower the computer with a portable generator.
- stillworks 9y agoAnd then possibly convert changes in the sound/vibrations produced by the generator into information ?
- danesparza 9y agoOne day it will. And there will be a reckoning...
- Izkata 9y ago> I don't know how he does it. Well, I can think of two prior examples of this particular one: * The first is fictional. In Person of Interest, one of the AIs does this in 4x22/5x01 (2015/2016) [0] to escape the other one. * The second, which has existed in the real world for decades, I only remembered after starting to type a joking comment about the prior point: The X10 standard is for using existing power lines for controlling home automation equipment. [1] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Person_of_Interest_episodes#ep90 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Person_of_Interest_epi... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X10_(industry_standard) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X10_(industry_standard)
- TeMPOraL 9y agoThird, it becomes more obvious when you stop thinking that computers are magic black boxes of digital pixie dust and realize they're physical artifacts, bound by the laws of physics. Then you realize there's shit ton of side channels available - places where energy escapes, where that energy is correlated with the processing the machine is doing. From there you get all of TEMPEST. BTW. great you mention Person of Interest; I highly recommend that show. IMO it's still, to date, the best and most realistic discussion of superhuman artificial intelligence in the popular media. Oh, and they predicted Snowden.
- walshemj 9y agoI love how its set up as almost a standard crime of the week show but in the first one or two episodes Finch says "oh turns out there's ways round Shannon's law"
- Izkata 9y ago> Oh, and they predicted Snowden. Also the current Facebook fiasco: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbUow3PIG1E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbUow3PIG1E
- aeorgnoieang 9y ago> ... Person of Interest; I highly recommend that show. IMO it's still, to date, the best and most realistic discussion of superhuman artificial intelligence in the popular media. When did that happen in the show? I vaguely remember some kind of episode about slipping a question to an AI or something. Maybe I should give the show a second chance.