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Yeah thanks for dropping some deeply outdated impressions in here. (Also not even fair—the code was never a mess and at the time it wasn't clear how ES modules

by marijn 9y ago

Yeah thanks for dropping some deeply outdated impressions in here. (Also not even fair—the code was never a mess and at the time it wasn't clear how ES modules would be used so using CommonJS was a completely reasonable choice.)

JasonSage 9y ago
Impressions matter, no matter how outdated they are. I also don't think the concept of fairness applies since I'm accounting the details of my personal experience and the conclusions I personally drew from it. Some of those are subjective (code quality) while others are purely objective (I got a lot of errors). What I infer from that may be entirely different from what you do, but that does not make your characterization of things more fair than mine.
- vertex-four 9y ago
  Does a review of Windows 3.1 give you any idea at all of how applicable Windows 10 would be to solving a given problem? At best, you’ve stated a bunch of nonsense for people to filter out once they eventually realise you’re talking about a version which bears little similarity to the current state of things.
  - coob 8y ago
    It's more important to appear smart and to spread your opinion than to contribute anything of value!
  - iamcasen 8y ago
    I have also used the newest version of prosemirror recently, and it caused me and my team so much pain we had to rip it out of our codebase. The documentation is still no good. The underlying tech looks super promising, but the plugin system makes no sense. If all they did was update their documentation so you can clearly see how to use it, perhaps it would be great.
iamcasen 8y ago
Hey there, Just wanted to offer some feedback. Prosemirror's docs are woefully incomplete. The way controls are added is extremely confusing. Why do we need some node module called "prose-mirror-example-setup" ? I know I'd personally prefer being able to add all the markup and style for the editor, and then just use prosemirror underneath the hood for state management. Another thing that I found quite difficult, was programmatically inserting images at the cursor. Finally, storing state as markdown has turned out to be a nightmare. Not really your fault, but perhaps something you should be aware of.
- pier25 8y ago
  I agree the docs are obtuse, and implementing features is hard, but document state is not saved as markdown. The whole point of PM is to separate content from prsentation.

by marijn 9y ago

JasonSage 9y ago

Impressions matter, no matter how outdated they are. I also don't think the concept of fairness applies since I'm accounting the details of my personal experience and the conclusions I personally drew from it. Some of those are subjective (code quality) while others are purely objective (I got a lot of errors). What I infer from that may be entirely different from what you do, but that does not make your characterization of things more fair than mine.

vertex-four 9y ago
Does a review of Windows 3.1 give you any idea at all of how applicable Windows 10 would be to solving a given problem? At best, you’ve stated a bunch of nonsense for people to filter out once they eventually realise you’re talking about a version which bears little similarity to the current state of things.
- coob 8y ago
  It's more important to appear smart and to spread your opinion than to contribute anything of value!
- iamcasen 8y ago
  I have also used the newest version of prosemirror recently, and it caused me and my team so much pain we had to rip it out of our codebase. The documentation is still no good. The underlying tech looks super promising, but the plugin system makes no sense. If all they did was update their documentation so you can clearly see how to use it, perhaps it would be great.

iamcasen 8y ago

Hey there, Just wanted to offer some feedback. Prosemirror's docs are woefully incomplete. The way controls are added is extremely confusing. Why do we need some node module called "prose-mirror-example-setup" ? I know I'd personally prefer being able to add all the markup and style for the editor, and then just use prosemirror underneath the hood for state management. Another thing that I found quite difficult, was programmatically inserting images at the cursor. Finally, storing state as markdown has turned out to be a nightmare. Not really your fault, but perhaps something you should be aware of.

pier25 8y ago
I agree the docs are obtuse, and implementing features is hard, but document state is not saved as markdown. The whole point of PM is to separate content from prsentation.