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They could be doing /charity work/. That time could also be spent in training designed to rehabilitate and promote re-integration when the correctional institu

They could be doing /charity work/. That time could also be spent in training designed to rehabilitate and promote re-integration when the correctional institution is done with the convict. A moral and just society should be promoting the maximum freedom which does not negatively impact others (this is a balancing act, as restricting freedom IS a negative impact) as well as the maximum connected social value of individuals within the whole of society. Retribution and punishments are petty and short sighted; they fail to calculate the cost on any front aside from a limited emotional scope. Recompense is different; in that the interests of reforming an offender and bettering society overall might align in that it can repair the rift between the individual and the whole as well as attempting to bring more good than bad to the relationship.

UrukParthian 9y ago
Unfortunately you're not in a "moral and just" society. You're in a land full of shucksters who value a job and a pension over any sort of genuine moral interest. They didn't "calculate the cost" blah blah. The public trough is always someone else's money to the bureaucrat. The public trough is a magical abstraction that pays you on time and pays you a generous stipend upon retirement. And the prisoners? Just uppity meat that you have to watch over before you can partake in sex tourism in your golden years. My heart almost pities you. You still believe in society and the multiple pyramid schemes (college, pensions, medical complex treating acute symptoms aka obesity, FIRE industries) it desperately props up. They even invite migrants so that more young flesh can form the bottom of the pyramid. And to escape the the future hole of doom, everyone tries to outrun, out work, express "positivity"... Just anything to avoid being realistic. Anything to deny that humans have social needs, to feel needed and wanted. We have more stuff but the whole ad complex, that murderer of beautiful thoughts and of cognitive running time, makes us feel dissatisfied in the midst of unparalleled material wealth. We praise equality but how hollow it sounds when there are men and women who could buy everything from you. Your job, your home, your wife/husband... You can even see obesity as a class marker nowadays. In a perverse way, I think a lot of the top 1% don't mind obesity as a society wide concern. Just another way to pour gold paint and shine over the underclasses. So to speak. /rant

UrukParthian 9y ago

Unfortunately you're not in a "moral and just" society. You're in a land full of shucksters who value a job and a pension over any sort of genuine moral interest. They didn't "calculate the cost" blah blah. The public trough is always someone else's money to the bureaucrat. The public trough is a magical abstraction that pays you on time and pays you a generous stipend upon retirement. And the prisoners? Just uppity meat that you have to watch over before you can partake in sex tourism in your golden years. My heart almost pities you. You still believe in society and the multiple pyramid schemes (college, pensions, medical complex treating acute symptoms aka obesity, FIRE industries) it desperately props up. They even invite migrants so that more young flesh can form the bottom of the pyramid. And to escape the the future hole of doom, everyone tries to outrun, out work, express "positivity"... Just anything to avoid being realistic. Anything to deny that humans have social needs, to feel needed and wanted. We have more stuff but the whole ad complex, that murderer of beautiful thoughts and of cognitive running time, makes us feel dissatisfied in the midst of unparalleled material wealth. We praise equality but how hollow it sounds when there are men and women who could buy everything from you. Your job, your home, your wife/husband... You can even see obesity as a class marker nowadays. In a perverse way, I think a lot of the top 1% don't mind obesity as a society wide concern. Just another way to pour gold paint and shine over the underclasses. So to speak. /rant