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From Mark's testimony yesterday, it seems like the above attributes are not your data, but FB's data about you - to which you are not entitled. "You own your d

by toufka 9y ago

From Mark's testimony yesterday, it seems like the above attributes are not your data, but FB's data about you - to which you are not entitled. "You own your data" means any messages, photos, and posts you write you keep your copyright to, and FB will make those data easily exportable. But any metadata, or any usage data is not actually your data, Facebook currently contends. Nor is any data about you that Facebook has, acquired, or purchased.

WA 9y ago
Status updates I composed but redacted but were captured from their key logger is my data. My likes are my data, because that is what the whole Cambridge Analytica thing is about (deriving a personality model from Likes). My search history is my data, because it helps to identify me as a person. My phone number they obtained through my friends uploading their contact list is my data. Clearly, I’m not entitled to all data, but to a lot more than what’s in that archive. Edit: And of course, if they have a shadow profile on you without you having an account (like your phone number and your name through the address book your friend uploaded), that is all your data, processed without your consent and without a way for you to get hold of.
- shostack 9y ago
  >"Status updates I composed but redacted but were captured from their key logger is my data." This seems like an important one. If they log all those messages, presumably they should all be there with some indication of status (deleted, published, etc.). I can only imagine the sensitive things contained in that dataset... Things like mistakenly pasted plaintext passwords, PII, etc.
abalone 9y ago
Except the archive contains ads topics, ads engagement history, advertisers who uploaded a contact list with your info, and account login activity, none of which qualify as copyrighted content that you shared. That's private usage data and data about you that Facebook acquired. Facebook is being selective in what they export here. The result is a misleading impression about what data they have on you.

by toufka 9y ago

WA 9y ago

Status updates I composed but redacted but were captured from their key logger is my data. My likes are my data, because that is what the whole Cambridge Analytica thing is about (deriving a personality model from Likes). My search history is my data, because it helps to identify me as a person. My phone number they obtained through my friends uploading their contact list is my data. Clearly, I’m not entitled to all data, but to a lot more than what’s in that archive. Edit: And of course, if they have a shadow profile on you without you having an account (like your phone number and your name through the address book your friend uploaded), that is all your data, processed without your consent and without a way for you to get hold of.

shostack 9y ago
>"Status updates I composed but redacted but were captured from their key logger is my data." This seems like an important one. If they log all those messages, presumably they should all be there with some indication of status (deleted, published, etc.). I can only imagine the sensitive things contained in that dataset... Things like mistakenly pasted plaintext passwords, PII, etc.

abalone 9y ago

Except the archive contains ads topics, ads engagement history, advertisers who uploaded a contact list with your info, and account login activity, none of which qualify as copyrighted content that you shared. That's private usage data and data about you that Facebook acquired. Facebook is being selective in what they export here. The result is a misleading impression about what data they have on you.