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kinda scary knowing this... I guess people should start implementing dual cuts or something. Or maybe another way to alter the deck by a 2nd player that makes

by yosho 16y ago

kinda scary knowing this... I guess people should start implementing dual cuts or something. Or maybe another way to alter the deck by a 2nd player that makes it incredibly hard to cheat.

hugh3 16y ago
It's been a while since I played poker, but surely to do this you'd have to shuffle an out-of-order deck into the correct order while in public view? That sounds like enough to make it "incredibly hard to cheat".
- slig 16y ago
  I think that it's called "cold deck" because the trick is to replace the playing deck with another one, that was perviously "prepared" into some specific permutation.
  - dstorrs 16y ago
    Exactly. The term comes from the way you spot the switch -- cards that have been being handled a lot warm up in the players' hands. If you touch the deck and it feels cool (i.e., it is room temperature), that means it just got introduced to play.
    - jules 16y ago
      Or it's warm because somebody just took it out of his pocket ;)
    - junkbit 16y ago
      Interesting. We use the terms cooler and cold deck for an unlucky situation all the time without thinking of where they came from.
dstorrs 16y ago
There are various ways to cut (in the "Scarne cut" you pull cards out of the middle and put them on top, then repeat several time) but the short answer is that if you're playing cards against a professional cheat or magician in anything less than laboratory conditions, you're going to lose. Period, end of story. I started picking up a bit of card magic a year or so ago, and I was amazed at how easy it is to fiddle a deck, and how many ways there are to do it. I was also amazed at just how inattentive and easily distracted people are, especially when they think they are watching you like a hawk. I've done incredibly blatant top changes and card reverses right in front of people and gotten away with it...and I'm a novice.

by yosho 16y ago

kinda scary knowing this... I guess people should start implementing dual cuts or something. Or maybe another way to alter the deck by a 2nd player that makes it incredibly hard to cheat.

hugh3 16y ago

It's been a while since I played poker, but surely to do this you'd have to shuffle an out-of-order deck into the correct order while in public view? That sounds like enough to make it "incredibly hard to cheat".

slig 16y ago
I think that it's called "cold deck" because the trick is to replace the playing deck with another one, that was perviously "prepared" into some specific permutation.
- dstorrs 16y ago
  Exactly. The term comes from the way you spot the switch -- cards that have been being handled a lot warm up in the players' hands. If you touch the deck and it feels cool (i.e., it is room temperature), that means it just got introduced to play.
  - jules 16y ago
    Or it's warm because somebody just took it out of his pocket ;)
  - junkbit 16y ago
    Interesting. We use the terms cooler and cold deck for an unlucky situation all the time without thinking of where they came from.

dstorrs 16y ago

There are various ways to cut (in the "Scarne cut" you pull cards out of the middle and put them on top, then repeat several time) but the short answer is that if you're playing cards against a professional cheat or magician in anything less than laboratory conditions, you're going to lose. Period, end of story. I started picking up a bit of card magic a year or so ago, and I was amazed at how easy it is to fiddle a deck, and how many ways there are to do it. I was also amazed at just how inattentive and easily distracted people are, especially when they think they are watching you like a hawk. I've done incredibly blatant top changes and card reverses right in front of people and gotten away with it...and I'm a novice.