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- The average US fatality is not in a ten year old car on a country road. - US crash rates are lower than worldwide rates, so Tesla’s estimate of lives saved wo

- The average US fatality is not in a ten year old car on a country road. - US crash rates are lower than worldwide rates, so Tesla’s estimate of lives saved worldwide is low. - If autopilot is only used part of the time, that implies its safety benefit is significantly more than 3.7x. A model S is not 3.7x better at passive safety than other cars. Of course none of this data is very meaningful. You have to compare the rates of autopilot users to non-autopilot users of similar demographics, and have all crashes recorded, not just fatalities, to get close to a comparative samples.

idoubtit 9y ago
> US crash rates are lower than worldwide rates, so Tesla’s estimate of lives saved worldwide is low. Road fatalities per 100,000 inhabitants per year (2013, WHO): UK 2.9 Spain 3.7 Germany 4.3 France 5.1 USA 10.6 Among the rich countries, the US crash rate is one of the worst. With a similar set of vehicles, this rate is very fluctuent, per country and per year. Hint: the problem may not be purely mechanical. Seriously, would Tesla's autopilot lower the crash rate in the UK? In Thailand? I guess it wouldn't change much in European countries, and any good car would do the same in poor countries.
- kps 9y ago
  > I guess it wouldn't change much in European countries Why not? Via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-r..., here is another table (same countries, same order) giving road fatalities per 10⁹km in 2015: UK 3.6 Spain 7.8 Germany 4.9 France 5.8 USA 7.1