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This is the new Gmail design

18 points by smaili 9y ago

nikolay 9y ago
Ewww! Painfully bright! I hope there's a dark there like with YouTube.
- squarefoot 9y ago
  You can still use an offline client such as Claws Mail and choose your favorite appearance. It also is a lot faster than any browser out there. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/PapirusDevelopmentTeam/papirus-claws-mail-theme/master/preview.png https://raw.githubusercontent.com/PapirusDevelopmentTeam/pap... http://www.claws-mail.org/downloads.php?section=downloads http://www.claws-mail.org/downloads.php?section=downloads
  - squarefoot 9y ago
    Lol, being downvoted for suggesting an OSS software I have zero affiliation with to solve an user problem. May I ask an explanation of the reason, if any? I'm 100% aware that writing about being downvoted brings more downvotes, and I don't give a monkey's multicolored ass about it. If I can't even suggest a software to solve an user's problem then Houston we have a much much worse problem than downvoted users being downvoted for writing about downvotes. BTW, the image I linked is the only one that comes out by searching "claws mail dark theme", just in case someone thinks I'm affiliated with that other site and is too lazy to check. HN: what about forcing users to give a short reason for downvoting? This time I know I'm 100% right but newbies (including myself when I landed here) have a hard time figuring what's wrong in their fading posts without any explanation. Post ratings should strive to be accurate because everyone benefits from it; I can't think of an useful information being hidden because some trigger happy users or their bosses don't like it.
vanderZwan 9y ago
> The Verge has obtained screenshots of the new Gmail design, currently being tested inside Google and with trusted partners. Those "trusted partners" better include trying things out with the elderly, and people who need ARIA. And since by default these people are always forgotten, the fact that the design team isn't boasting about thinking about them has me very, very worried already. Pak1G summarised this perfectly five years ago in a HN comment on the Gmail redesign back then. > I look at UI changes in a totally different way now. My [mom] saw me come online on Skype, so she called me. There's an ocean between us currently. She said she called me because she was writing an email to me, but couldn't find the Send button, so didn't know how to send it. Either it made her feel stupid or frustrated, or she felt so sad that she couldn't send an email to me that she had spent some time writing, or whatever, but she started crying. She was crying because she couldn't find the Send button in gmail. She's approaching 60 and isn't as technically adept as some of us, so that is admittedly a factor. > Seeing her cry about this made me change the way I think about what some users go through when they experience unexpected UI changes. I remember hearing people say they got confused by Windows 8 tiles, and didn't think it was such a big deal. After seeing my mom cry over a UI change, I think there are better ways to implement UI changes than simply shoving them down people's throat. Sure, if it must be done, it must be done (UI change), but don't shove it down people's throats unexpectedly and with no hand-holding at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6429848 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6429848
lightbyte 9y ago
>A new snooze feature also lets you temporarily remove emails from your inbox until a certain time, so you can avoid certain email threads until you’re ready to reply. How is this a feature worth developing? Is leaving the email unread until you want to read it too difficult? I can't think of a single use case for this.
- crazybus 9y ago
  This feature has existed in inbox for a long time. It is useful for things like snoozing an email with flight tickets to a certain date. For certain kinds of emails it automatically gives you the option to snooze the email till the day of the flight or reservation. You can also snooze to locations. So having the email popup when you get home for example.
- speg 9y ago
  Speak for yourself. This is one of my must have features when looking at email clients. I can easily keep Inbox:0 by deferring things until I actually need to deal with them. Inbox does the best job by bundling like emails which can then processed together.
- romwell 9y ago
  That's because for many people, email is a to-do list. Once you see the inbox as a task list, you will understand the feature. A to-do list sorted by the time the task was put on the list is not optimal. Some people would like to see the tasks that they have to do this week (send pictures to Emily), and not in three months (check-in for the upcoming flight). I was not aware of this feature myself until just now, but I'm going to be a user of it.

18 points by smaili 9y ago

nikolay 9y ago

Ewww! Painfully bright! I hope there's a dark there like with YouTube.

squarefoot 9y ago
You can still use an offline client such as Claws Mail and choose your favorite appearance. It also is a lot faster than any browser out there. https://raw.githubusercontent.com/PapirusDevelopmentTeam/papirus-claws-mail-theme/master/preview.png https://raw.githubusercontent.com/PapirusDevelopmentTeam/pap... http://www.claws-mail.org/downloads.php?section=downloads http://www.claws-mail.org/downloads.php?section=downloads
- squarefoot 9y ago
  Lol, being downvoted for suggesting an OSS software I have zero affiliation with to solve an user problem. May I ask an explanation of the reason, if any? I'm 100% aware that writing about being downvoted brings more downvotes, and I don't give a monkey's multicolored ass about it. If I can't even suggest a software to solve an user's problem then Houston we have a much much worse problem than downvoted users being downvoted for writing about downvotes. BTW, the image I linked is the only one that comes out by searching "claws mail dark theme", just in case someone thinks I'm affiliated with that other site and is too lazy to check. HN: what about forcing users to give a short reason for downvoting? This time I know I'm 100% right but newbies (including myself when I landed here) have a hard time figuring what's wrong in their fading posts without any explanation. Post ratings should strive to be accurate because everyone benefits from it; I can't think of an useful information being hidden because some trigger happy users or their bosses don't like it.

vanderZwan 9y ago

> The Verge has obtained screenshots of the new Gmail design, currently being tested inside Google and with trusted partners. Those "trusted partners" better include trying things out with the elderly, and people who need ARIA. And since by default these people are always forgotten, the fact that the design team isn't boasting about thinking about them has me very, very worried already. Pak1G summarised this perfectly five years ago in a HN comment on the Gmail redesign back then. > I look at UI changes in a totally different way now. My [mom] saw me come online on Skype, so she called me. There's an ocean between us currently. She said she called me because she was writing an email to me, but couldn't find the Send button, so didn't know how to send it. Either it made her feel stupid or frustrated, or she felt so sad that she couldn't send an email to me that she had spent some time writing, or whatever, but she started crying. She was crying because she couldn't find the Send button in gmail. She's approaching 60 and isn't as technically adept as some of us, so that is admittedly a factor. > Seeing her cry about this made me change the way I think about what some users go through when they experience unexpected UI changes. I remember hearing people say they got confused by Windows 8 tiles, and didn't think it was such a big deal. After seeing my mom cry over a UI change, I think there are better ways to implement UI changes than simply shoving them down people's throat. Sure, if it must be done, it must be done (UI change), but don't shove it down people's throats unexpectedly and with no hand-holding at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6429848 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6429848

lightbyte 9y ago

>A new snooze feature also lets you temporarily remove emails from your inbox until a certain time, so you can avoid certain email threads until you’re ready to reply. How is this a feature worth developing? Is leaving the email unread until you want to read it too difficult? I can't think of a single use case for this.

crazybus 9y ago
This feature has existed in inbox for a long time. It is useful for things like snoozing an email with flight tickets to a certain date. For certain kinds of emails it automatically gives you the option to snooze the email till the day of the flight or reservation. You can also snooze to locations. So having the email popup when you get home for example.
speg 9y ago
Speak for yourself. This is one of my must have features when looking at email clients. I can easily keep Inbox:0 by deferring things until I actually need to deal with them. Inbox does the best job by bundling like emails which can then processed together.
romwell 9y ago
That's because for many people, email is a to-do list. Once you see the inbox as a task list, you will understand the feature. A to-do list sorted by the time the task was put on the list is not optimal. Some people would like to see the tasks that they have to do this week (send pictures to Emily), and not in three months (check-in for the upcoming flight). I was not aware of this feature myself until just now, but I'm going to be a user of it.