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> I disagree, when eating natural unprocessed plant foods it is virtually impossible to OD on calories. Sure we need to eat varied. But ODin on calories on a wh

> I disagree, when eating natural unprocessed plant foods it is virtually impossible to OD on calories. Sure we need to eat varied. But ODin on calories on a whole-plant-based (WFPB) diet will need you to go straight for the avocados, dates and nuts. Otherwise you are pretty much safe. You're not really contradicting OP, just outlining simple and obvious ways to reduce calories. The end effect is the same. The best part of the salad is not that it's vegetable, not that it's more natural, but that it's low in calories. > 2 strips of bacon vs a 500gr monster salad..? I know my pick. I don't know, what else do you have in that salad? Sauce? What kind? Croutons?

cies 9y ago
> The best part of the salad is not that it's vegetable, not that it's more natural, but that it's low in calories. Nope. It about nutrients/calorie, which is high in a salad. Try playing with the cronometer.com app and you'll see what I mean. It's not so easy to get all the bars in green. > I don't know, what else do you have in that salad? Sauce? What kind? Croutons? WFPB salad, no oil, no processed junk.
- KozmoNau7 9y ago
  So a completely dry salad, not even a bit of olive oil? Yeesh.
  - cies 9y ago
    Since you're asking curious, see some ideas for dressings here: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wfpb+salad+dressings https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wfpb+salad+dres... The salad underneath the dressing is usually WFPB as it is, so needs little adjustment. I also like just salad, with a little salt, pepper and balsamico. But tastes differ. IMHO oil is still not a health food, no not even olive oil. There is science to back it up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbtwwZP4Yfs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbtwwZP4Yfs My personal conclusion: i eat very little (<1tblsp/d) and very high quality coco or olive oil.
    - arkh 9y ago
      Have you read some of the studies your video link to? "10 people", "18 men" etc. Most are blood tests some hours after a meal. Nothing about long term effect on health. Just full papers published from what should be one data point and a lot of speculation from the youtuber.
    - KozmoNau7 9y ago
      That is a thoroughly depressing playlist. You avoid processed foods, but you add balsamico to your salad? Balsamico is made by concentrating down grape juice through boiling, and then fermenting the resulting must for years. Isn't that processing, and far away from "whole food"? And the oil thing is simply scaremongering. Of course oil is calorie dense, but as long as you keep that in mind, it's fine. The papers cited by the guy in the video you linked don't really back up your claims. (Besides, something doesn't become true, just because there's a paper or two on it)

cies 9y ago

> The best part of the salad is not that it's vegetable, not that it's more natural, but that it's low in calories. Nope. It about nutrients/calorie, which is high in a salad. Try playing with the cronometer.com app and you'll see what I mean. It's not so easy to get all the bars in green. > I don't know, what else do you have in that salad? Sauce? What kind? Croutons? WFPB salad, no oil, no processed junk.

KozmoNau7 9y ago
So a completely dry salad, not even a bit of olive oil? Yeesh.
- cies 9y ago
  Since you're asking curious, see some ideas for dressings here: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wfpb+salad+dressings https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wfpb+salad+dres... The salad underneath the dressing is usually WFPB as it is, so needs little adjustment. I also like just salad, with a little salt, pepper and balsamico. But tastes differ. IMHO oil is still not a health food, no not even olive oil. There is science to back it up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbtwwZP4Yfs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbtwwZP4Yfs My personal conclusion: i eat very little (<1tblsp/d) and very high quality coco or olive oil.
  - arkh 9y ago
    Have you read some of the studies your video link to? "10 people", "18 men" etc. Most are blood tests some hours after a meal. Nothing about long term effect on health. Just full papers published from what should be one data point and a lot of speculation from the youtuber.
  - KozmoNau7 9y ago
    That is a thoroughly depressing playlist. You avoid processed foods, but you add balsamico to your salad? Balsamico is made by concentrating down grape juice through boiling, and then fermenting the resulting must for years. Isn't that processing, and far away from "whole food"? And the oil thing is simply scaremongering. Of course oil is calorie dense, but as long as you keep that in mind, it's fine. The papers cited by the guy in the video you linked don't really back up your claims. (Besides, something doesn't become true, just because there's a paper or two on it)