> In all air combat training scenarios, F-35s blow F-16s out of the skies. F-16s, sure, and we keep hearing about this, but I wonder how they fare against more

> In all air combat training scenarios, F-35s blow F-16s out of the skies. F-16s, sure, and we keep hearing about this, but I wonder how they fare against more modern fighters though, such as Rafale, Eurofighter, or whatever. Rafale had the reputation to be an overpriced, goal-missing† multirole beast, but apparently the U.S.A would not let France take that crown for too long, and boy does it seem they beat the crap out of us on that front now. † especially when it wasn't able to land on the Charles de Gaulle carrier in early years of development.