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As long as redditors can choose between the designs I don't see a problem. Once this choice is removed though they've veered in to Digg territory. All the power

by s_dev 9y ago

As long as redditors can choose between the designs I don't see a problem. Once this choice is removed though they've veered in to Digg territory. All the power users and influencers will use the old design because they're used to it. I can see why reddit wants a redesign -- reddit is ugly but people are used to it that way and grew to like it. The redesign is for new users. Reddit has already been down this path with Pao. If they don't like how the site is being run they will depart or revolt.

ploggingdev 9y ago
Any good tl;dr on what happened between Ellen Pao and reddit? I didn't follow the story when it was playing out.
- thomasz 9y ago
  She closed some long running hatefests like fatpeoplehate and took the fall for the very controversial firing of an employee, which later turned out to be Ohanian's decision.
  - ApolloFortyNine 9y ago
    She basically opened the floodgates for banning subreddits Reddit doesn't like. Up until the ban of fatpeoplehate, the only subreddits that would get banned were CP related or based around doxing. Now pretty much anything is on the table.
    - TremendousJudge 9y ago
      >Now pretty much anything is on the table. Not really. The_Donald hasn't been banned even though Reddit doesn't like it. They have kind of hidden it though.
      - dehugger 9y ago
        They shut down a huge number of firearm/alchohol/tobacco related subreddits in the last month, many of which were very mature and welcoming communities, without any warning they they were going to do this to the moderators. Places like r/beerswap and r/pipetobaccomarket, which allowed users to swap product unavailable in their local areas. Now the moderators of big subreddits like r/pipetobacco are organizing alternative websites for their users to go to, before the inevitably get banned without warning for not aligning with Reddit's new image.
        thomasz 9y ago
        The current events are most likely motivated by legal concerns, and have nothing to do with the decision to shut down hate subs, and happened a long time after Pao left.
gedy 9y ago
> The redesign is for new users And I suspect bigger, more visible ads/paid content
- FridgeSeal 9y ago
  The paid content is definitely way worse (more insidious) in the new design): it blends in far more, and equally as bad is that a lot of it seems to be just using those trash fb-esque style clickbait titles. Reddit's not perfect, but trash-tier clickbait titles is not something I'm accustomed to seeing on there, nor do I want to.
- shawnz 9y ago
  They could have made the ads more visible without adding a million frameworks.
KarenSatantsby 9y ago
yes very Digg like - Digg is the only thing on Readspike I wish I could remove. I wonder how to replace Reddit - Discord seems like where a lot of good conversations are going. ? Can YCombinator host some good discussions beyond app development - I really like how it is moderated.
shawnz 9y ago
> As long as redditors can choose between the designs I don't see a problem. Even if they intend to keep the old design available forever (very unlikely), it means that they now have the same number of developers supporting twice as much UI. So obviously that means they will not be able to deliver bug fixes as rapidly, etc.

by s_dev 9y ago

ploggingdev 9y ago

Any good tl;dr on what happened between Ellen Pao and reddit? I didn't follow the story when it was playing out.

thomasz 9y ago
She closed some long running hatefests like fatpeoplehate and took the fall for the very controversial firing of an employee, which later turned out to be Ohanian's decision.
- ApolloFortyNine 9y ago
  She basically opened the floodgates for banning subreddits Reddit doesn't like. Up until the ban of fatpeoplehate, the only subreddits that would get banned were CP related or based around doxing. Now pretty much anything is on the table.
  - TremendousJudge 9y ago
    >Now pretty much anything is on the table. Not really. The_Donald hasn't been banned even though Reddit doesn't like it. They have kind of hidden it though.
    - dehugger 9y ago
      They shut down a huge number of firearm/alchohol/tobacco related subreddits in the last month, many of which were very mature and welcoming communities, without any warning they they were going to do this to the moderators. Places like r/beerswap and r/pipetobaccomarket, which allowed users to swap product unavailable in their local areas. Now the moderators of big subreddits like r/pipetobacco are organizing alternative websites for their users to go to, before the inevitably get banned without warning for not aligning with Reddit's new image.
      - thomasz 9y ago
        The current events are most likely motivated by legal concerns, and have nothing to do with the decision to shut down hate subs, and happened a long time after Pao left.

gedy 9y ago

> The redesign is for new users And I suspect bigger, more visible ads/paid content

FridgeSeal 9y ago
The paid content is definitely way worse (more insidious) in the new design): it blends in far more, and equally as bad is that a lot of it seems to be just using those trash fb-esque style clickbait titles. Reddit's not perfect, but trash-tier clickbait titles is not something I'm accustomed to seeing on there, nor do I want to.
shawnz 9y ago
They could have made the ads more visible without adding a million frameworks.

KarenSatantsby 9y ago

yes very Digg like - Digg is the only thing on Readspike I wish I could remove. I wonder how to replace Reddit - Discord seems like where a lot of good conversations are going. ? Can YCombinator host some good discussions beyond app development - I really like how it is moderated.

shawnz 9y ago

> As long as redditors can choose between the designs I don't see a problem. Even if they intend to keep the old design available forever (very unlikely), it means that they now have the same number of developers supporting twice as much UI. So obviously that means they will not be able to deliver bug fixes as rapidly, etc.