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This looks like it could be fun. I don't know Lisp, but I might be willing to learn one just for this jam. Can someone recommend a Lisp version that works on Wi

This looks like it could be fun. I don't know Lisp, but I might be willing to learn one just for this jam. Can someone recommend a Lisp version that works on Windows and is easy to setup? Simple 2D graphics like SDL will be enough for me.

rlp 9y ago
I would suggest SBCL if you're going with Common Lisp, although Clojure + libgdx could be an interesting combination.
speps 9y ago
https://docs.racket-lang.org/games/index.html https://docs.racket-lang.org/games/index.html Also has bundled bindings for OpenGL and other GUI stuff. You can find more there: https://docs.racket-lang.org/index.html https://docs.racket-lang.org/index.html
- grimgrin 9y ago
  Huh, cool. I like that they provide a module for traditional card games https://docs.racket-lang.org/cards/index.html https://docs.racket-lang.org/cards/index.html
hucker 9y ago
Take a look at racket (https://racket-lang.org/ https://racket-lang.org/), works on windows and is the most beginner-friendly lisp I know.
lispm 9y ago
See here for Lisp resources: https://github.com/lispgames/lispgames.github.io/wiki/Common-Lisp https://github.com/lispgames/lispgames.github.io/wiki/Common...
- na85 9y ago
  Wow, the amount of [STALLED] or [ABANDONED] tags on that list sure was depressing.
  - lispm 9y ago
    Why that? People write a lot of experimental code. There is nothing wrong with that. One could remove them from the list, but the state is documented and you can choose to use them or not. Note also that the language does not change too much, so relatively old libraries might still work - the surrounding platform changes faster and is probably more of the actual limitation.
CodeArtisan 9y ago
Racket and clojure being already cited, there is also LambdaNative which is a scheme specifically for developing cross platform applications (it's based on gambit scheme). it has a binding for opengl and a GUI built with that binding. http://www.lambdanative.org/ http://www.lambdanative.org/
- i_feel_great 9y ago
  Already an example game in LambdaNative: https://github.com/part-cw/lambdanative/blob/master/apps/uSquish/main.scm https://github.com/part-cw/lambdanative/blob/master/apps/uSq.... Compile it and run it, or get it from the App stores
baggers 9y ago
I'm biased but I'd go Common Lisp The basics: - SBCL: generates fast[0] code. runs well on windows - Quicklisp: The package manager which lets you install the packages mentioned below I've got a video here that should help with getting set up on windows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnWVu8VVDbI&t=1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnWVu8VVDbI&t=1s Then you could try the SDL2 approach: - cl-sdl2: Bindings over sdl2 https://github.com/lispgames/cl-sdl2 https://github.com/lispgames/cl-sdl2 - cl-sdl2-mixer: audio playback https://github.com/lispgames/cl-sdl2-mixer https://github.com/lispgames/cl-sdl2-mixer - Some basic math library like: 3d-matrices, rtg-math, sb-cga Or maybe an existing engine: - https://github.com/borodust/trivial-gamekit https://github.com/borodust/trivial-gamekit Come down to #lispgames on freenode if you need a hand as there is usually someone there who has touched this stuff[1] I'll also pimp my own stuff while I'm here just in case someone is looking for a lispy layer over gl - https://github.com/cbaggers/cepl https://github.com/cbaggers/cepl Main downside of Common Lisp is that Emacs or Vim are pretty much a requirement to get a nice development environment, without which you are pretty much in 'writing Java in notepad' territory. [0] for some definition of fast that I don't want to belabor this comment with.
- mtreis86 9y ago
  To get started quickly with SBCL/Quicklisp/Emacs/Slime on Windows: https://common-lisp.net/project/lispbox/ https://common-lisp.net/project/lispbox/ or http://www.iqool.de/lispstick.html http://www.iqool.de/lispstick.html
  - TeMPOraL 9y ago
    Lispbox is very old (though worked good enough at the days; I actually started with it). The current "Lisp environment in a box" thing is Portacle - https://portacle.github.io/ https://portacle.github.io/.
  - baggers 9y ago
    I couldn't get anywhere with those last time I tried (2013). LispStick doesn't seem to have been updated since 2014 and LispBox has had no commits since 2010. Have you used either of these recently? For those wanting to go this route I'd recommend Portacle which can run on off a usb and includes git
yumaikas 9y ago
I'd recommend Fennel and Love2D, if you're ok with picking up a bit of Lua, or if you already know it.

rlp 9y ago

I would suggest SBCL if you're going with Common Lisp, although Clojure + libgdx could be an interesting combination.

speps 9y ago

https://docs.racket-lang.org/games/index.html https://docs.racket-lang.org/games/index.html Also has bundled bindings for OpenGL and other GUI stuff. You can find more there: https://docs.racket-lang.org/index.html https://docs.racket-lang.org/index.html

grimgrin 9y ago
Huh, cool. I like that they provide a module for traditional card games https://docs.racket-lang.org/cards/index.html https://docs.racket-lang.org/cards/index.html

hucker 9y ago

Take a look at racket (https://racket-lang.org/ https://racket-lang.org/), works on windows and is the most beginner-friendly lisp I know.

lispm 9y ago

See here for Lisp resources: https://github.com/lispgames/lispgames.github.io/wiki/Common-Lisp https://github.com/lispgames/lispgames.github.io/wiki/Common...

na85 9y ago
Wow, the amount of [STALLED] or [ABANDONED] tags on that list sure was depressing.
- lispm 9y ago
  Why that? People write a lot of experimental code. There is nothing wrong with that. One could remove them from the list, but the state is documented and you can choose to use them or not. Note also that the language does not change too much, so relatively old libraries might still work - the surrounding platform changes faster and is probably more of the actual limitation.

CodeArtisan 9y ago

Racket and clojure being already cited, there is also LambdaNative which is a scheme specifically for developing cross platform applications (it's based on gambit scheme). it has a binding for opengl and a GUI built with that binding. http://www.lambdanative.org/ http://www.lambdanative.org/

i_feel_great 9y ago
Already an example game in LambdaNative: https://github.com/part-cw/lambdanative/blob/master/apps/uSquish/main.scm https://github.com/part-cw/lambdanative/blob/master/apps/uSq.... Compile it and run it, or get it from the App stores

baggers 9y ago

I'm biased but I'd go Common Lisp The basics: - SBCL: generates fast[0] code. runs well on windows - Quicklisp: The package manager which lets you install the packages mentioned below I've got a video here that should help with getting set up on windows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnWVu8VVDbI&t=1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnWVu8VVDbI&t=1s Then you could try the SDL2 approach: - cl-sdl2: Bindings over sdl2 https://github.com/lispgames/cl-sdl2 https://github.com/lispgames/cl-sdl2 - cl-sdl2-mixer: audio playback https://github.com/lispgames/cl-sdl2-mixer https://github.com/lispgames/cl-sdl2-mixer - Some basic math library like: 3d-matrices, rtg-math, sb-cga Or maybe an existing engine: - https://github.com/borodust/trivial-gamekit https://github.com/borodust/trivial-gamekit Come down to #lispgames on freenode if you need a hand as there is usually someone there who has touched this stuff[1] I'll also pimp my own stuff while I'm here just in case someone is looking for a lispy layer over gl - https://github.com/cbaggers/cepl https://github.com/cbaggers/cepl Main downside of Common Lisp is that Emacs or Vim are pretty much a requirement to get a nice development environment, without which you are pretty much in 'writing Java in notepad' territory. [0] for some definition of fast that I don't want to belabor this comment with.

mtreis86 9y ago
To get started quickly with SBCL/Quicklisp/Emacs/Slime on Windows: https://common-lisp.net/project/lispbox/ https://common-lisp.net/project/lispbox/ or http://www.iqool.de/lispstick.html http://www.iqool.de/lispstick.html
- TeMPOraL 9y ago
  Lispbox is very old (though worked good enough at the days; I actually started with it). The current "Lisp environment in a box" thing is Portacle - https://portacle.github.io/ https://portacle.github.io/.
- baggers 9y ago
  I couldn't get anywhere with those last time I tried (2013). LispStick doesn't seem to have been updated since 2014 and LispBox has had no commits since 2010. Have you used either of these recently? For those wanting to go this route I'd recommend Portacle which can run on off a usb and includes git

yumaikas 9y ago

I'd recommend Fennel and Love2D, if you're ok with picking up a bit of Lua, or if you already know it.