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There is a lot I am tempted to call out in this post, but just for a particularly glaring example, > It's important to stress that the differences between memb
by 4bpp 9y ago
There is a lot I am tempted to call out in this post, but just for a particularly glaring example,
> It's important to stress that the differences between members of the perceived groups ("ethnicities", "country of origin", "mother tongue", "a certain look") are much larger within that group than any measurable differences between averages of those groups.
Surely the differences in income, the binary variable of being-in-STEM, recruiter favourability shown towards CVs etc. between members of the perceived groups ("skin colour", "gender", "mother tongue", ...) are much larger within that group than any measurable differences between averages of those groups too. Does that mean you are arguing that the gender pay gap, representation in STEM fields and unfair hiring practices are all irrelevant?
(For what it's worth, there's only a few examples where differences between groups actually dwarf differences within groups, all of which seem very famous, e.g. grip strength vs. gender.)
- jonathanstrange 9y agoNo, I didn't, as I made very clear in the post. (keyword: "policy making") I also hope that you don't believe that intelligence and salary are in any way on a par. Intelligence is at least partly genetically inherited (notwithstanding other factors). Salary is not. To make your analogy correct, consider someone who claims that women are less intelligent than men. That person is most likely a sexist, even though I do not deny that from time to time there may be people who actually believe to have data to back up the claim. Even if there is data, the comparison makes almost no sense except for certain cases of policy making, since the variation of intelligence amongst the group of women and man is so much higher than the difference between the averages of the groups.
- mr_overalls 9y ago> Intelligence is at least partly genetically inherited (notwithstanding other factors). Salary is not. Studies show that salary is, in fact, quite heritable. http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/about/news-room/press-releases/2015/07/23/parental-income-has-outsized-influence-on-childrens-economic-future http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/about/news-room/press-releases/2...