> Sorry if the statement offended you. It came from the experience that I so far haven't encountered anyone who seriously uses C++ and does not know about the u

> Sorry if the statement offended you. It came from the experience that I so far haven't encountered anyone who seriously uses C++ and does not know about the undefined order of static initialization. Water under the bridge. While I did say I was brought in to fix it, what I didn't say was that the group's management thought that Java coders could code in C++. D'oh.