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Spotify daily mixes

tontonius 9y ago
would you care to elaborate on what parts of Discover that are powered by AI? In all honesty, I think the lines are severely blurred at this point.
- blixt 9y ago
  AI has been a moving goalpost since its conception, all the way from • "it can play tic tac toe"; • to "it can beat people at chess, Jeopardy, Go, DotA"; • to "it can see, understand and physically move around our world"; • to "it solves problems the smartest humans can't begin to fathom" Spotify's machine learning algorithms are definitely beyond tic tac toe as they can learn from millions of listeners and look at a single listening history to figure out great music suggestions. I would put that under the AI umbrella as it's something people were doing before computers did it.
  - GrumpyNl 9y ago
    Is that AI from spotify or just smartly compairing lists?
    - blixt 9y ago
      What is "smartly comparing lists"? To describe further (as I'm an ex-Spotify employee I have some outdated insight into how it works): Spotify has historically used machine learning to tweak a predictive engine that can convert a track or artist into an N-dimensional value and then use the distance to other tracks/artists in this N-dimensional space. Is that AI? Maybe. How does the brain work? Maybe when you see a dog it's converted into an N-dimensional space where cats are pretty close, at least much closer than turtles. So if that is human intelligence, is Spotify's recommendation engine not artificial intelligence?
      - veli_joza 9y ago
        Thanks for the insight, very interesting! I'm working on project that uses distances in N-dimensional space for determining appropriate human response and face expression; I was also wandering if this falls under AI umbrella.
- ThomPete 9y ago
  Spotify will tell artist to change or remix parts of their songs. Songwriting is a craft but on a platform like spotify its turned into a science. Think a/b testing for songs. Thats what i have heard they are doing. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.fastcompany.com/40439000/why-did-spotify-hire-this-expert-in-music-making-ai https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.fastcompany.com/40439000/wh...
- vbsteven 9y ago
  It’s a machine (algorithm) that looks and learns from my listening history and that of other users, defines certain specific listening patterns/genres for me and it compiles mixes with old and new music for each of those genres. I don’t see that much difference with an AI that looks at and learns from a lot of historic go games to recommend or play the optimal next moves for the current go board.

Spotify daily mixes

would you care to elaborate on what parts of Discover that are powered by AI? In all honesty, I think the lines are severely blurred at this point.

blixt 9y ago
AI has been a moving goalpost since its conception, all the way from • "it can play tic tac toe"; • to "it can beat people at chess, Jeopardy, Go, DotA"; • to "it can see, understand and physically move around our world"; • to "it solves problems the smartest humans can't begin to fathom" Spotify's machine learning algorithms are definitely beyond tic tac toe as they can learn from millions of listeners and look at a single listening history to figure out great music suggestions. I would put that under the AI umbrella as it's something people were doing before computers did it.
- GrumpyNl 9y ago
  Is that AI from spotify or just smartly compairing lists?
  - blixt 9y ago
    What is "smartly comparing lists"? To describe further (as I'm an ex-Spotify employee I have some outdated insight into how it works): Spotify has historically used machine learning to tweak a predictive engine that can convert a track or artist into an N-dimensional value and then use the distance to other tracks/artists in this N-dimensional space. Is that AI? Maybe. How does the brain work? Maybe when you see a dog it's converted into an N-dimensional space where cats are pretty close, at least much closer than turtles. So if that is human intelligence, is Spotify's recommendation engine not artificial intelligence?
    - veli_joza 9y ago
      Thanks for the insight, very interesting! I'm working on project that uses distances in N-dimensional space for determining appropriate human response and face expression; I was also wandering if this falls under AI umbrella.
ThomPete 9y ago
Spotify will tell artist to change or remix parts of their songs. Songwriting is a craft but on a platform like spotify its turned into a science. Think a/b testing for songs. Thats what i have heard they are doing. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.fastcompany.com/40439000/why-did-spotify-hire-this-expert-in-music-making-ai https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.fastcompany.com/40439000/wh...
vbsteven 9y ago
It’s a machine (algorithm) that looks and learns from my listening history and that of other users, defines certain specific listening patterns/genres for me and it compiles mixes with old and new music for each of those genres. I don’t see that much difference with an AI that looks at and learns from a lot of historic go games to recommend or play the optimal next moves for the current go board.