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>Let me put it very clearly for you: it is not acceptable, in any shape or manner, to expect your users to have to "save themselves" from your product killing t
by Matheus28 9y ago
>Let me put it very clearly for you: it is not acceptable, in any shape or manner, to expect your users to have to "save themselves" from your product killing them every 5 seconds. If your product requires that, it is a bad product.
Yes it is. Otherwise you're asking all car manufacturers to stop selling cars. "I have to constantly keep my car between the lines or I'll cause an accident" is an acceptable standard. That's how every car on the road works today. The liability is on the user to operate it properly.
You accuse the poster of fanboy-ism, but you don't realize how much Tesla tells the driver that they need to pay attention and keep their hands on the steering wheel while they're using autopilot. So maybe your lack of experience with the car makes you pull those baseless arguments.
While I agree Tesla is deceptive with their wording and the way they sell their autopilot ("have the hardware needed for full self-driving capability"), it's not legally wrong. They have the hardware for it (according to them), but at the moment, the software they have is a glorified lane assist. They specifically mention in that same page:
> Every driver is responsible for remaining alert and active when using Autopilot, and must be prepared to take action at any time.
- txcwpalpha 9y ago>That's how every car on the road works today. The liability is on the user to operate it properly. No, it is not. No other car on the market today actively steers you toward an obstacle. Every non-autopilot car would require the driver (or another human actor, such as another driver) to first put themselves in a dangerous situation before requiring they get themselves out of it. Tesla autopilot, on the other hand, puts the driver in a dangerous situation on it's own. That is the crucial, fundamental difference.
- greglindahl 9y agoEr, no, there are other cars that steer. All of them are level 2 systems that could steer you wrong.
- CaptainZapp 9y agoAnd which manufacturer actually refers to it as autopilot? I can only name one.