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Hi all, Peepeth creator here. Would appreciate your thoughts. https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/87k9iz/presenting_peepeth_a_decentralized_alternative_

by bevan 8y ago

Hi all, Peepeth creator here. Would appreciate your thoughts. https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/87k9iz/presenting_peepeth_a_decentralized_alternative_to/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/87k9iz/presenting... https://www.producthunt.com/posts/peepeth https://www.producthunt.com/posts/peepeth

__phantom 8y ago
In terms of getting paid: As a content creator, I'd like the barrier to entry to be as small as possible. Youtube Views being the lowest, what's the draw for this over Patreon, or even a Paypal?
- bevan 8y ago
  Good question. It's nice to be able to receive payments without relying on a company. Even if Peepeth.com goes down, you could still be in business on other front-ends (back-end data is open, anyone can build competing front-ends).
berberous 8y ago
1) The word "microblogging" threw me off -- for some reason, I hear "blogging", and don't realize it's meant to be a twitter clone. 2) Maybe it's just me, but the full page image of the woman on your landing page makes me want to close out rather than engage and find out what the product is. I'd rather see top peeps immediately, with a partial landing banner for new users. 3) I think the most critical task for a product like yours is curating a good community. With twitter already existing, how do you intend to avoid turning into a boring graveyard of crypto shills (like Steem) or a Gab-like place filled with only people offensive enough to have been banned elsewhere? 4) Otherwise -- it looks great! I'm on the waitlist...how long before you send out more invite? :)
- bevan 8y ago
  Thanks! 1) Yeah, it's a weird word. Other suggestions appreciated. 2) Good feedback. 3) Branding is a top priority. This front-end is meant to polarize for a certain type of user. That becomes more clear during on-ramp and usage. Copy/messaging needs work. Suggestions appreciated. 4) Thank you. Best way is to DM me on Twitter at @bevanbarton with the email address you signed up with and I'll approve you ASAP.
  - CrackpotGonzo 8y ago
    signed up for the waitlist too, excited to try it out!
  - deleted 8y ago
    [deleted]
  - icc97 8y ago
    Could just copy Wikipedia [0]: > online news and social networking service [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter
  - gregknicholson 8y ago
    On the word “microblogging”: I think this may actually be the fundamental problem with all Twitter clones (so I'm not singling out your project; you just happen to be here). For a mass-market tool, it should be possible to describe the purpose your tool using words that have existed for more than a couple of decades. At the moment, the shorthand is always “like Twitter, except not quite”. So is it public chat? personal status updates? a public short-form diary? crap poetry? a personal news feed? a way to contact companies with short messages? All of these are valid, and maybe it's several, but perhaps choosing one use-case to focus on will lead to a clearer offering.
  - jelpern 8y ago
    Technically "microblogging" is the generic term for Twitter's service, as I'm sure you know, but given how quickly they dominated the space it's a bit obscure (like saying "ice pop" for a Popsicle). I'm curious about the polarizing. I've never seen the word used that way before; does it refer to screening certain types out, or to attracting only certain types in? Is the idea to avoid the misogynist and alt right types who have ruined Twitter for a lot of people?
- ahazred8ta 8y ago
  Dumping large volumes of nonessential content into the Ethereum blockchain sounds like an antipattern.
  - johnnylambada 8y ago
    Um... cryptokitties? But seriously a lot of people don't think Twitter is non essential. Once in the block chain a message can't be deleted, which could prove to make better discourse.
    - HenryBemis 8y ago
      And this is why no politician, celebrity may never join it. Too much at stake! As for microblogging, from the title I thought of a Tumblr/Twitter alternative, but I guess not :) I own crypto but not ETH, and respectfully I don't want to get into ETH just for this. On the upside thought, making people "work for it" will keep away trolls and time-wasters/haters. I hope it grows to see it how you like!
      - icebraining 8y ago
        Politicians already have https://politwoops.eu/ https://politwoops.eu/
panic 8y ago
It looks like the actual data is stored in IPFS; who is responsible for pinning this data so it sticks around? Is the centralized peepeth.com service also a de facto centralized host?
swirepe 8y ago
I found the feed to be more interesting than the copy on the first page. The first peep I saw was a meme, and that's great. Lots of software in this space feels too self-serious for memes. https://peepeth.com/_?id=QmQpyNnU8UaPQdfP5o1HXX4D827NwttTJm3NtoGHNKYfo3 https://peepeth.com/_?id=QmQpyNnU8UaPQdfP5o1HXX4D827NwttTJm3...
pm90 8y ago
As someone who appreciates free speech but also hates online bullying and trolling, I'm a bit concerned that this platform could be used by bad actors to that effort. Technically though, its an excellent concept and very nice at first glance.
rory096 8y ago
s/demonitize/demonetize
willsaar 8y ago
The need to bulk post, and fees in general, are likely to hinder mainstream adoption. Can multiple users share a bulk post? Curious if it would be possible to set up a site that reduces latency by grouping post actions from multiple users, possibly even letting them post for free by displaying ads in the front-end.

by bevan 8y ago

__phantom 8y ago

In terms of getting paid: As a content creator, I'd like the barrier to entry to be as small as possible. Youtube Views being the lowest, what's the draw for this over Patreon, or even a Paypal?

bevan 8y ago
Good question. It's nice to be able to receive payments without relying on a company. Even if Peepeth.com goes down, you could still be in business on other front-ends (back-end data is open, anyone can build competing front-ends).

berberous 8y ago

1) The word "microblogging" threw me off -- for some reason, I hear "blogging", and don't realize it's meant to be a twitter clone. 2) Maybe it's just me, but the full page image of the woman on your landing page makes me want to close out rather than engage and find out what the product is. I'd rather see top peeps immediately, with a partial landing banner for new users. 3) I think the most critical task for a product like yours is curating a good community. With twitter already existing, how do you intend to avoid turning into a boring graveyard of crypto shills (like Steem) or a Gab-like place filled with only people offensive enough to have been banned elsewhere? 4) Otherwise -- it looks great! I'm on the waitlist...how long before you send out more invite? :)

bevan 8y ago
Thanks! 1) Yeah, it's a weird word. Other suggestions appreciated. 2) Good feedback. 3) Branding is a top priority. This front-end is meant to polarize for a certain type of user. That becomes more clear during on-ramp and usage. Copy/messaging needs work. Suggestions appreciated. 4) Thank you. Best way is to DM me on Twitter at @bevanbarton with the email address you signed up with and I'll approve you ASAP.
- CrackpotGonzo 8y ago
  signed up for the waitlist too, excited to try it out!
- deleted 8y ago
  [deleted]
- icc97 8y ago
  Could just copy Wikipedia [0]: > online news and social networking service [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter
- gregknicholson 8y ago
  On the word “microblogging”: I think this may actually be the fundamental problem with all Twitter clones (so I'm not singling out your project; you just happen to be here). For a mass-market tool, it should be possible to describe the purpose your tool using words that have existed for more than a couple of decades. At the moment, the shorthand is always “like Twitter, except not quite”. So is it public chat? personal status updates? a public short-form diary? crap poetry? a personal news feed? a way to contact companies with short messages? All of these are valid, and maybe it's several, but perhaps choosing one use-case to focus on will lead to a clearer offering.
- jelpern 8y ago
  Technically "microblogging" is the generic term for Twitter's service, as I'm sure you know, but given how quickly they dominated the space it's a bit obscure (like saying "ice pop" for a Popsicle). I'm curious about the polarizing. I've never seen the word used that way before; does it refer to screening certain types out, or to attracting only certain types in? Is the idea to avoid the misogynist and alt right types who have ruined Twitter for a lot of people?
ahazred8ta 8y ago
Dumping large volumes of nonessential content into the Ethereum blockchain sounds like an antipattern.
- johnnylambada 8y ago
  Um... cryptokitties? But seriously a lot of people don't think Twitter is non essential. Once in the block chain a message can't be deleted, which could prove to make better discourse.
  - HenryBemis 8y ago
    And this is why no politician, celebrity may never join it. Too much at stake! As for microblogging, from the title I thought of a Tumblr/Twitter alternative, but I guess not :) I own crypto but not ETH, and respectfully I don't want to get into ETH just for this. On the upside thought, making people "work for it" will keep away trolls and time-wasters/haters. I hope it grows to see it how you like!
    - icebraining 8y ago
      Politicians already have https://politwoops.eu/ https://politwoops.eu/

panic 8y ago

It looks like the actual data is stored in IPFS; who is responsible for pinning this data so it sticks around? Is the centralized peepeth.com service also a de facto centralized host?

swirepe 8y ago

I found the feed to be more interesting than the copy on the first page. The first peep I saw was a meme, and that's great. Lots of software in this space feels too self-serious for memes. https://peepeth.com/_?id=QmQpyNnU8UaPQdfP5o1HXX4D827NwttTJm3NtoGHNKYfo3 https://peepeth.com/_?id=QmQpyNnU8UaPQdfP5o1HXX4D827NwttTJm3...

pm90 8y ago

As someone who appreciates free speech but also hates online bullying and trolling, I'm a bit concerned that this platform could be used by bad actors to that effort. Technically though, its an excellent concept and very nice at first glance.

rory096 8y ago

s/demonitize/demonetize

willsaar 8y ago

The need to bulk post, and fees in general, are likely to hinder mainstream adoption. Can multiple users share a bulk post? Curious if it would be possible to set up a site that reduces latency by grouping post actions from multiple users, possibly even letting them post for free by displaying ads in the front-end.