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Which failed in its stated mission and fell back to being yet another just-ok web scripting language.

by OtterCoder 8y ago

kk__ 8y ago
30 years is a good time frame to judge a programming language.
kybernetikos 8y ago
Java also has been a phenomenal success, just not as a language for applets.
jrs95 8y ago
Um...what? Are you thinking of Dart?
- silotis 8y ago
  Go initially billed itself as a language for systems programming, but that claim was quickly retracted when it turned out that Go's creators had a different notion of systems programming than everyone else.
  - geodel 8y ago
    Not everyone. Just self-proclaimed authority who decided systems means operating system or some embedded code. Lots of companies I worked have title Systems Engineer or departments Systems engineering which has nothing to do with Operating systems but just some internal applications.
    - dingo_bat 8y ago
      > Just self-proclaimed authority who decided systems means operating system or some embedded code Systems does mean that. There are 2 broad categories of software you can write. One is software that provides a service to the user directly. That is an application. The other kind is software that provides a service to applications. That's systems software. Do you think there's something wrong with this notion? It's pretty well accepted over the decades: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_programming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_programming
      - slrz 8y ago
        Sure, and Go's most prolific users are in infrastructure software for distributed systems. You seem to agree with the quoted statement.
      - geodel 8y ago
        Well by that definition Docker, Kubernetes, etcd and so on are systems software. But people here somehow explicitly make it to mean Computer Operating Systems.
      - weberc2 8y ago
        By this definition, Python and JavaScript are systems languages.
  - jrs95 8y ago
    This was all over with way before the 1.0 release even happened. There's no point in arguing over something that was addressed several years ago before Go even reached stability. Plus, trying to say that Go was a "failure" because of this is absurd. It was an issue of terminology, not technology. Given Kubernetes, Docker, etc you would have to be totally delusional to claim that Go has been a failure.

Which failed in its stated mission and fell back to being yet another just-ok web scripting language.

kk__ 8y ago

30 years is a good time frame to judge a programming language.

kybernetikos 8y ago

Java also has been a phenomenal success, just not as a language for applets.

jrs95 8y ago

Um...what? Are you thinking of Dart?

silotis 8y ago
Go initially billed itself as a language for systems programming, but that claim was quickly retracted when it turned out that Go's creators had a different notion of systems programming than everyone else.
- geodel 8y ago
  Not everyone. Just self-proclaimed authority who decided systems means operating system or some embedded code. Lots of companies I worked have title Systems Engineer or departments Systems engineering which has nothing to do with Operating systems but just some internal applications.
  - dingo_bat 8y ago
    > Just self-proclaimed authority who decided systems means operating system or some embedded code Systems does mean that. There are 2 broad categories of software you can write. One is software that provides a service to the user directly. That is an application. The other kind is software that provides a service to applications. That's systems software. Do you think there's something wrong with this notion? It's pretty well accepted over the decades: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_programming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_programming
    - slrz 8y ago
      Sure, and Go's most prolific users are in infrastructure software for distributed systems. You seem to agree with the quoted statement.
    - geodel 8y ago
      Well by that definition Docker, Kubernetes, etcd and so on are systems software. But people here somehow explicitly make it to mean Computer Operating Systems.
    - weberc2 8y ago
      By this definition, Python and JavaScript are systems languages.
- jrs95 8y ago
  This was all over with way before the 1.0 release even happened. There's no point in arguing over something that was addressed several years ago before Go even reached stability. Plus, trying to say that Go was a "failure" because of this is absurd. It was an issue of terminology, not technology. Given Kubernetes, Docker, etc you would have to be totally delusional to claim that Go has been a failure.