<-- I do apps fulltime Objective-C isn't bad, as I like both C and Smalltalk, it seemed quite normal to me. I will say the lack of a persistent ORM that isn't

<-- I do apps fulltime Objective-C isn't bad, as I like both C and Smalltalk, it seemed quite normal to me. I will say the lack of a persistent ORM that isn't as complicated as removing an internal organ is a bit of a liability (simple, core data is not). And yeah yeah, persistent object graph blah blah.