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Jobs like that exist and you're welcome to take one. I prefer to be always available; please don't try to outlaw it.

mc32 9y ago
You may volunteer, if you like but there should be no expectation or negative repercussions for people who do not engage in this behavior and managers should be advised against any implicit bias against non conformists.
- jessriedel 9y ago
  I would like to do the work and get paid for it. If you don't want a job like that, don't take one. The reasonable defense of sorts of restrictions is that workers are stuck in some sort of collective action problem; none of them want to work overtime, but they can't coordinate. But that argument is dead in the water if it can't account for different preferences.
toomuchtodo 9y ago
Opinions like this enable the continual abuse of the American workforce.
- cabaalis 9y ago
  I disagree. Opinions like this one allow people who want to make more money, impress employers and get noticed because of it, and therefore excel to achieve those goals. The unintended consequence of a rule like this will be that employers will move to limit liability by introducing technical barriers like are being discussed elsewhere on this thread. Therefore people who want to work more and be compensated for it will be technically prohibited from doing so.
  - toomuchtodo 9y ago
    The sacrifices we make for a civilized society. Apologies for not being able to maximize your earnings potential to prevent workplace abuse. Easy political win considering how many workers are being exploited compared to “high achievers”.
moate 9y ago
Literally nobody is doing that. Go read that description. Employers can still email you whenever they want, they just can't take any action against you if you don't reply. So it's super great that you want to be at your job's beck and call for whatever your reasons, but I fail to see why slowing the creep of work into my off-hours is bad?
- jessriedel 9y ago
  You misinterpret. The point is not to be available out of the kindness of one's heart, the point is to create value doing that and be compensated accordingly (and hence, to be fireable or not as well compensated otherwise).

mc32 9y ago

You may volunteer, if you like but there should be no expectation or negative repercussions for people who do not engage in this behavior and managers should be advised against any implicit bias against non conformists.

jessriedel 9y ago
I would like to do the work and get paid for it. If you don't want a job like that, don't take one. The reasonable defense of sorts of restrictions is that workers are stuck in some sort of collective action problem; none of them want to work overtime, but they can't coordinate. But that argument is dead in the water if it can't account for different preferences.

toomuchtodo 9y ago

Opinions like this enable the continual abuse of the American workforce.

cabaalis 9y ago
I disagree. Opinions like this one allow people who want to make more money, impress employers and get noticed because of it, and therefore excel to achieve those goals. The unintended consequence of a rule like this will be that employers will move to limit liability by introducing technical barriers like are being discussed elsewhere on this thread. Therefore people who want to work more and be compensated for it will be technically prohibited from doing so.
- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  The sacrifices we make for a civilized society. Apologies for not being able to maximize your earnings potential to prevent workplace abuse. Easy political win considering how many workers are being exploited compared to “high achievers”.

moate 9y ago

Literally nobody is doing that. Go read that description. Employers can still email you whenever they want, they just can't take any action against you if you don't reply. So it's super great that you want to be at your job's beck and call for whatever your reasons, but I fail to see why slowing the creep of work into my off-hours is bad?

jessriedel 9y ago
You misinterpret. The point is not to be available out of the kindness of one's heart, the point is to create value doing that and be compensated accordingly (and hence, to be fireable or not as well compensated otherwise).