> We absolutely should because it's a fundamental aspect of doing their job. The problem is that we don't pay engineers to crank out pre-designed classes in a

> We absolutely should because it's a fundamental aspect of doing their job. The problem is that we don't pay engineers to crank out pre-designed classes in a specified language with a specific editor. We do pay day laborers to go dig a certain trench over there with these particular shovels and picks. Software engineering is so much more open-ended. We're paying people to "go help the team make the yard more water efficient". In other words, if we had more well-defined roles for "coder" versus "engineer" versus "architect", it might make sense to test on the ability to use tools, but in general people in this thread aren't making that kind of distinction because the tech culture in general doesn't make a clear distinction. Otherwise, we'd have "coder" job interviews that didn't include algorithms or open-ended problem solving questions.