> So many people put their programming expertise or productivity down to some innate quality Yes. Some people (both as kids and adults) seem to be innately int

> So many people put their programming expertise or productivity down to some innate quality Yes. Some people (both as kids and adults) seem to be innately interested in different kinds of activities. And it is perhaps impossible to separate talent with passionate interest since B leads to A. Take the kids from my tribe, extremely passionate about patterns and things and systems and numbers and coding from early childhood, _despite_ concern from parents and teachers, social ostracization, and efforts to limit computer time. We also tend to acquire talent.