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Apprenticeship has been a thing as long as professions have existed. A common way to justify training an apprentice is to indenture them - they agree to work fo
by Kluny 9y ago
Apprenticeship has been a thing as long as professions have existed. A common way to justify training an apprentice is to indenture them - they agree to work for you for a set number of years at a given wage, in exchange for training. Then you get professional organizations who negotiate on behalf of trainees/apprentices to make sure that the training wages are fair and the conditions aren't too onerous. Membership in the professional organization is contingent on keeping your indentureship agreements. Programming is such a young profession that we don't have any of that, and I think we need to evolve it.
- vinceguidry 9y agoNobody's going to accept indentures in this day and age.
- Kluny 9y agoI would, for a chance to be trained in a technology that I don't know and have a steady job for 5 years or so.
- humanrebar 9y agoI'm surprised that no employers even offer this as an option when hiring. There might be some legal barriers to this problem like recovering the investments when the employee breaks the contract? Seems like some kind of insurance would help there, though.
- vinceguidry 9y agoI asked my last employer about this and they said that no contract can bind an employee to a company. Any contract would be one-sided in favor of the employee. Seems obvious when you think about it. Indentured servitude is wrong.
- humanrebar 9y ago> ...they said that no contract can bind an employee to a company. Seems to work fine for athletes, actors, medical residents, certain kinds of scholarships, etc.
- vinceguidry 9y agoI dunno the exact law, but those segments seem like specially-regulated segments of the economy.
- humanrebar 9y agoMaybe knowledge work is also special. Arguably medicine is a form of knowledge work. And it's not exactly a small or especially niche sector of the economy.
- humanrebar 9y agoPro athletes, medical residents, and certain teachers seem OK with it. College professors can't exactly take their tenure with them.
- Zimahl 9y agoPro athletes ... seem OK with it. Pro athletes are a terrible example. There has been decades of litigation, lockouts, negotiations, etc. across almost all leagues to get to where we are now and there are many that continue to think the system is too restrictive for the players and too much in a league's favor.