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Agreed. I have no problem paying for subscriptions when warranted (content such as Netflix, utilities, etc...) The issue I have is when this model is applied t

Agreed. I have no problem paying for subscriptions when warranted (content such as Netflix, utilities, etc...) The issue I have is when this model is applied to certain software that doesn't directly provide added value over time (like Office 365 or Photoshop). When I purchase software, I want the ability to clearly compare the available features (value) vs the cost at that specific time. This is why Sendy (https://sendy.co https://sendy.co) received my business over MailChimp (https://mailchimp.com https://mailchimp.com). The software I sell is also a pay-once model and I feel much happier knowing my customers are getting good value for their money.

taytus 9y ago
>The issue I have is when this model is applied to certain software that doesn't directly provide added value over time As a professional photographer, Photoshop does provide value over time for me and my colleagues. Why would you pay for something that you don't use? I honestly don't understand what the problem is, if something doesn't add value, then why would you pay for it?. I don't see a real "issue" here.
- Domenic_S 9y ago
  He said added value over time in exchange for a subscription. Photoshop has value, that's why it's being purchased; GP is saying that the subscription doesn't add anything additional, which I kind of agree with for a program as mature as PS. It's a lease vs. buy calculation -- one site who did the math says: > However, once you get past the two year mark, all bets are off—the subscription is more expensive than buying, even if you plan on upgrading every two years. https://lifehacker.com/5904416/rent-vs-buy-is-adobes-creative-cloud-subscription-cheaper-than-buying-photoshop https://lifehacker.com/5904416/rent-vs-buy-is-adobes-creativ...
  - patorjk 9y ago
    If you just wanted Photoshop and not the cloud storage, your best bet would be the Photography plan, which is $10 a month and includes Photoshop and Lightroom. Placing the data in Excel, and assuming someone were to take the $585 Amazon price for Photoshop and upgrade every 2 years, it would take 14 years before that was a better deal than using the subscription plan. If you assume the $700 price tag, it takes 25 years. However, it only takes 3 years if you use the student plan numbers (though as a side note, it looks like the subscription plan is the only way to get Photoshop now).
    - Domenic_S 9y ago
      The math is different today because there's a $10 photography plan that didn't exist when CC launched, and as you point out you can't buy PS outright anymore.
scarface74 9y ago
You can buy Office for a one time cost of $149 for one conputer. I don't have a problem paying $9.99 a month or $99 a year for Office 365 for 5 computers and 5 tablets and phones. With 5 installations, that's enough for my laptop, my wife's, both of my sons and my mom. I can also use it on my iPad. DropBox and Apple charge $100 a year for a terabyte of storage alone. I really like JetBrains perpetual license, after a year, you get a permanent license to the version that was current 12 months from the time you subscribed - if you cancel your subscription in April 2018, you get to a license to whatever version was current April 2027.

taytus 9y ago

>The issue I have is when this model is applied to certain software that doesn't directly provide added value over time As a professional photographer, Photoshop does provide value over time for me and my colleagues. Why would you pay for something that you don't use? I honestly don't understand what the problem is, if something doesn't add value, then why would you pay for it?. I don't see a real "issue" here.

Domenic_S 9y ago
He said added value over time in exchange for a subscription. Photoshop has value, that's why it's being purchased; GP is saying that the subscription doesn't add anything additional, which I kind of agree with for a program as mature as PS. It's a lease vs. buy calculation -- one site who did the math says: > However, once you get past the two year mark, all bets are off—the subscription is more expensive than buying, even if you plan on upgrading every two years. https://lifehacker.com/5904416/rent-vs-buy-is-adobes-creative-cloud-subscription-cheaper-than-buying-photoshop https://lifehacker.com/5904416/rent-vs-buy-is-adobes-creativ...
- patorjk 9y ago
  If you just wanted Photoshop and not the cloud storage, your best bet would be the Photography plan, which is $10 a month and includes Photoshop and Lightroom. Placing the data in Excel, and assuming someone were to take the $585 Amazon price for Photoshop and upgrade every 2 years, it would take 14 years before that was a better deal than using the subscription plan. If you assume the $700 price tag, it takes 25 years. However, it only takes 3 years if you use the student plan numbers (though as a side note, it looks like the subscription plan is the only way to get Photoshop now).
  - Domenic_S 9y ago
    The math is different today because there's a $10 photography plan that didn't exist when CC launched, and as you point out you can't buy PS outright anymore.

scarface74 9y ago

You can buy Office for a one time cost of $149 for one conputer. I don't have a problem paying $9.99 a month or $99 a year for Office 365 for 5 computers and 5 tablets and phones. With 5 installations, that's enough for my laptop, my wife's, both of my sons and my mom. I can also use it on my iPad. DropBox and Apple charge $100 a year for a terabyte of storage alone. I really like JetBrains perpetual license, after a year, you get a permanent license to the version that was current 12 months from the time you subscribed - if you cancel your subscription in April 2018, you get to a license to whatever version was current April 2027.