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Google is about to launch a Gmail Web Redesign

115 points by kanishkdudeja 9y ago

jolesf 9y ago
Very interested in this. I use inbox for personal emails but find it lacking in many areas- most of all is lag and slow response.
jacksmith21006 9y ago
Why? Pretty use to how Gmail is today and not really looking for a new redesign and learning the new way.
- kawfey 9y ago
  Pretty sure there will be a "switch back to the old Gmail" mode, because you're not the only one.
  - butz 9y ago
    For a month or two. Then, one day, you'll open it up, see new design and "switch back" option is gone.
- Raphmedia 9y ago
  They just redesigned the entire agenda web app, makes sense that mail was going to receive the same treatment.
heavymark 9y ago
Very excited for this. When "Inbox" came out I was excited for a lot of the modern amenities but it was so dumbed down from gmail and missing a lot of core features, that ultimately switched back to using the classic Gmail interface, even though it hasn't received much love in a while. Since they have a separate Inbox product, hopefully they will be able to refresh it with all the new modern bits, without removing any of the advanced power user functionality we have all come to love and relay on.
- ocdtrekkie 9y ago
  I'm betting themes goes away, since Gmail is the only Google interface that's unevolved enough to let users actually pick the way they want their client to look. RIP dark themes.
  - zer 9y ago
    In that case you can still use custom CSS / user styles.
    - ocdtrekkie 9y ago
      I did this for a while to cope with some of Google+'s redesigns, and came to realize that you end up in a constant battle of dealing with your custom CSS being broken by updates and changes to the website, and that you are better off just suffering through what a given website wants you to use, if you're going to use it at all.
  - eclipticplane 9y ago
    Ugh, I need themes to differentiate different personal mailboxes or various work related inboxes. There are days I might have 5 or 6 google inboxes open at any given time.
zaksoup 9y ago
We use G Suite at work and I'm not a fan of the new calendar design. Material design works nicely on a tiny phone screen but on a 32" 4k display it just seems like there's a lot of unused space. That's probably the ridiculous size of the panel, to some degree, but frankly, I just don't think Google's done a great job of designing desktop user interfaces that aren't search. For folks interested in avoiding your email provider also being an advertising company, I switched to Fastmail* last year. They've got gmail import and full IMAP push support (something gmail canned years ago). I'd also love to see other hosted alternatives to gmail. I looked into rolling my own on EC2 but decided I didn't have the expertise to do it "right" * https://www.fastmail.com/ https://www.fastmail.com/
- david-cako 9y ago
  What is fastmail's sell other than their webmail interface? Seems very expensive to me. I pay $15 a year at mxroute for unlimited domains and users.
  - zaksoup 9y ago
    I don't ever use their webmail, to be honest. I've got native mail clients on my devices that I connect to Fastmail with IMAP. To compare apples to apples it seems most relevant to compare storage tiers, MXroute is 5/month for 20gb, Fastmail's 5/month plan is 25gb (but single-user only). I personally don't really want to deal with cPanel, too. Not because cPanel isn't cool, but because I explicitly wanted to pay somebody to do the management for me so I didn't have to get too in-the-weeds. I'm certain I'd misconfigure something somewhere and I just don't want to deal with that. EOD it seems mostly like personal preference and how much you want to tinker. Value for both seem close to the same.
    - david-cako 9y ago
      Ah, maybe I have a pretty hot promo deal then, I've got unlimited at mxroute. I've also read mxroute's writeup on why they use cpanel, and apparently it just made sense to use it for user configuration, and that under the hood it's all a very unusual setup (I don't understand enough about email to be honest).
oftenwrong 9y ago
I wonder if they will keep the "Basic HTML" view.
rabboRubble 9y ago
Sorting columns would be nice! That's about the only missed feature. I hope they don't add more dead white space like they did when rebranding from the old blue design to the current red. Edit: oh god, I read on that article they want to merge Gmail and Inbox and the white space in Inbox is freeking horrible. Why? Why do this? I had looked at Inbox briefly and thought to myself no way. I can see 8 email in Inbox and 21 in Gmail today. One email in inbox has embedded spammy ad pictures that absorbs 3x the normal amount of space. https://inbox.google.com/ https://inbox.google.com/
- rabboRubble 9y ago
  Further edit to the edit: Ran across an article with better images of the redesigned GUI. First glance, it looks good. Compact display of information, balanced interface controls, better coloring scheme. That all said, proof will be in the pudding~ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/04/gmail-com-redesign-leaks-looks-pretty-incredible/#p3 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/04/gmail-com-redesign-l...
ajeet_dhaliwal 9y ago
If this is true I wonder whether this kills Inbox. I prefer Inbox over the Gmail interface and use it exclusively. I have an iPhone X and 5 months later, the Inbox app has not been updated for the iPhone X screen, I think it's the only Google app I have that hasn't been.
- ocdtrekkie 9y ago
  Since Inbox was a failed attempt at a Gmail redesign, my guess is that it will go away if the new one doesn't send people running and screaming for the hills.
  - ajeet_dhaliwal 9y ago
    I think Inbox is great, why do you say it's a failed attempt? I don't think it tried to replace Gmail, it's it's own thing.
    - ocdtrekkie 9y ago
      It was intended to replace Gmail, and they halted doing so because even their own employees revolted: https://techcrunch.com/2014/11/16/why-did-google-decide-to-split-inbox-from-gmail/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/11/16/why-did-google-decide-to-s... This is probably why Gmail is nearly the last Google product that looks like it did in the 2000s: they had to start over.
- zwily 9y ago
  I'd place a lot of money on a bet that this kills Inbox. Inbox on iOS still doesn't support iPhone X, 6 months later. This tells me that engineers aren't doing any new work on it. (It has had updates every couple weeks with "bug fixes").
- awakeasleep 9y ago
  Inbox is going to be Google's sandbox to test new ideas about email, with the most successful features graduating to gmail itself. So progressive enhancement/alteration for now, not a product shutdown
rakibtg 9y ago
I wonder what Inbox would do? I have been using Inbox though it is not doing great! Sometimes i need to switch to the Gmail in order to get things done.
stefan_ 9y ago
I'm excited to discover which current Gmail features Google will deem surplus in this re"design". That seems to be the trend when a new look is rolled out.
- neuromantik8086 9y ago
  I'll bust out the popcorn when threads like this [1] start popping up and people complain until Google locks down posting. [1] https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/calendar/xd-5-vDxUNY https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/calendar/xd-5...
  - kuschku 9y ago
    I never knew that feature existed, and now I wish I'd have used it :/
neuromantik8086 9y ago
Can we just agree to throw wads of cash at Thunderbird so that we can have an e-mail client that isn't dependent on Google's whims (both for good and for ill)? I like some of the features of Gmail (i.e., labels), but I'd prefer that we as a society try to move back to a more provider-agnostic internet.
- awalton 9y ago
  Feel free to put your money wherever you want. We're not stopping you from funding Thunderbird development. ...we're just gmail users because, however sadly, it's still the best damned mail client on the planet. Nobody's even come close since 2004. Everyone's had plenty of time to write a replacement - nobody has because email is a terrible technology and it's a thankless chore to work on/with.
  - ocdtrekkie 9y ago
    FastMail's client is way zippier than Gmail's (seriously, when you scroll through a 10,000 email folder in moments without waiting for things to load, you wonder what black magic they're using to make it appear so seamless). Of course, it isn't free. Gmail's interface hasn't significantly improved since... maybe smart labels, several years ago? I'd argue it's been surpassed, and most of it's features are par for the course today. A much larger reason people are Gmail users is because it's incredibly hard to move providers if you have an (at)mailprovider.com email address.
    - shazow 9y ago
      Also Gmail's spam filtering is still unparalleled. I actually pipe my Fastmail through Gmail just for the spam filtering. Sigh. Kinda wish they released their spam filtering service as a stand-alone service.
      - jon_adler 9y ago
        You can customise your Fastmail spam filtering if needed, however after 15 years of Fastmail email, I still get virtual zero spam.
proxygeek 9y ago
I wonder if this also has something to do with their planned support for AMP in Gmail. If yes, then this might get tricky ...
- ocdtrekkie 9y ago
  Gmail already does dynamic content over email in the case of a first party service: Google+. It's unlikely a design refresh has anything to do with Google's intention to proprietarize email.
berg01 9y ago
Prepare yourselves for even more whitespace and even larger typefaces. It's the Material Design Way. (Let's not forget the current Gmail had a big design update that added lots of whitespace a few years ago.) That update from a reader who witnessed a Googler dogfooding the new UI was interesting: '“It was a hybrid of Gmail and Inbox,” he told me. “The left-side column was more like inbox.google.com and the right side was an enlarged version of Gmail.' Let's just hope they don't repeat the Google News redesign; forcing the content column to be fixed width. I'm looking at the new Material Design Google News right on a 40" 4k screen, the column with actual news items is like 30% of the width of the screen: https://imgur.com/a/EQY8Q https://imgur.com/a/EQY8Q Edit: Eeek. I just tried inbox.google.com. It behaves pretty much like the new Google News in terms of layout. I think this is what we can expect.
- addicted 9y ago
  Google News has become unusable for me. It used to be great to find a variety of sources about a certain topic. But now it’s become really hard to browse beyond the 2-3 articles that are privileged. I guess it fits in with the Google Search motivations of becoming an answer engine, instead of a search engine by providing a single specific answer instead of a breadth of resources to explore on your own.
  - baud147258 9y ago
    I totaly agree. I started to use bing news at the time. Even if they don't offer multiple sources for each story, they offer sources that are more diverse (ie, not just the biggest news provider).
- colemannugent 9y ago
  Yeah, my biggest fear is that they will take away the "compact" display settings in favor of something more design'y. The first thing I do on any new phone is make the text size as small as possible so I don't have to scroll so damn much.
  - reitanqild 9y ago
bshia 9y ago
I hope they add all possible sandboxes and spying codes also. They could ask from facebook advice how to deal eith privacy issues
anurag 9y ago
I'm looking forward to the redesign, but if you're a power user and want vim/emacs-like productivity in email, it's going to be very hard for Gmail to beat Superhuman (https://superhuman.com https://superhuman.com). Ping me if you'd like to get bumped to the top of the access queue. Email in profile. Not affiliated with them; just a happy user.
- kps 9y ago
  That page somehow neglects to say what the product is (email client? web service?) and also makes impossible claims (‘Undo Send’).
  - ocdtrekkie 9y ago
    "Undo Send" features are pretty common (Gmail offers it as well), and essentially it just delays sending your emails for x minutes, so you can cancel an outgoing mail if you're prone to "oh shoot" the moment after you click the button.
  - gauravvohra 9y ago
    We're an email client (currently web, macOS, iOS) to help you do your email twice as fast :)
    - kps 9y ago
      Thanks, that might actually be interesting. (I fear I'll have to retire Eudora eventually.)
- camwiese 9y ago
  Love the support :)
- gauravvohra 9y ago
  thanks for the shoutout Anurag :)
bhandziuk 9y ago
For me the only thing that needs to be fixed is that when my mouse ever so briefly glances over a contact in the Hangouts pane as the cursor traverses to the other monitor, that contact's card pops up and stays up indefinitely, looking at me. If it could never do that I'd be happy. Otherwise the gmail interface doesn't really need any improvement. It's email. there's not much special about it.
itakedrugs 9y ago
hopefully not as bad as the last one... reverting back would be an upgrade... Maybe this time they will decide to hide the TO field?
kanishkdudeja 9y ago
Update: A Google spokesperson has provided the following statement (emphasis included): “We’re working on some major updates to Gmail (they’re still in draft phase). We need a bit more time to compose ourselves, so can’t share anything yet—archive this for now, and we’ll let you know when it’s time to hit send.” As quoted on: https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/11/google-is-about-to-launch-a-gmail-web-redesign/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/11/google-is-about-to-launch-...
janitor61 9y ago
I really hope they don't get rid of the option to turn conversation view off. For me, conversation view adds in a lot of clutter that makes it difficult to see the message, plus lots of inline and collapsed-by-default content. I'd really like the ability to see what emails I've replied to (with conversation mode off), but pessimistically I'd expect we're getting mostly unneeded aesthetic changes and functionality regressions.
- awakeasleep 9y ago
  The options around conversation view are not only staying, but they're being built into the phone apps as well.
jbigelow76 9y ago
The first three items in your inbox will now be "Sponsored Email Placements", with organic email showing up underneath.
jiveturkey 9y ago
oh god please no. anyway airmail (app) is decent so maybe time to go back to a local client.
seba_dos1 9y ago
Just when I needed just a slight push to finally migrate away from Gmail to own mail server. Thanks Google! :) On a brighter side, basic HTML version still works very well in Gmail, hopefully that won't be broken with the redesign.
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youseecomrade 9y ago
Let me guess, it will follow the Google tradition of making it painfully slow or resource intensive to use on Firefox.

115 points by kanishkdudeja 9y ago

Very interested in this. I use inbox for personal emails but find it lacking in many areas- most of all is lag and slow response.

jacksmith21006 9y ago

Why? Pretty use to how Gmail is today and not really looking for a new redesign and learning the new way.

kawfey 9y ago
Pretty sure there will be a "switch back to the old Gmail" mode, because you're not the only one.
- butz 9y ago
  For a month or two. Then, one day, you'll open it up, see new design and "switch back" option is gone.
Raphmedia 9y ago
They just redesigned the entire agenda web app, makes sense that mail was going to receive the same treatment.

heavymark 9y ago

Very excited for this. When "Inbox" came out I was excited for a lot of the modern amenities but it was so dumbed down from gmail and missing a lot of core features, that ultimately switched back to using the classic Gmail interface, even though it hasn't received much love in a while. Since they have a separate Inbox product, hopefully they will be able to refresh it with all the new modern bits, without removing any of the advanced power user functionality we have all come to love and relay on.

ocdtrekkie 9y ago
I'm betting themes goes away, since Gmail is the only Google interface that's unevolved enough to let users actually pick the way they want their client to look. RIP dark themes.
- zer 9y ago
  In that case you can still use custom CSS / user styles.
  - ocdtrekkie 9y ago
    I did this for a while to cope with some of Google+'s redesigns, and came to realize that you end up in a constant battle of dealing with your custom CSS being broken by updates and changes to the website, and that you are better off just suffering through what a given website wants you to use, if you're going to use it at all.
- eclipticplane 9y ago
  Ugh, I need themes to differentiate different personal mailboxes or various work related inboxes. There are days I might have 5 or 6 google inboxes open at any given time.

zaksoup 9y ago

We use G Suite at work and I'm not a fan of the new calendar design. Material design works nicely on a tiny phone screen but on a 32" 4k display it just seems like there's a lot of unused space. That's probably the ridiculous size of the panel, to some degree, but frankly, I just don't think Google's done a great job of designing desktop user interfaces that aren't search. For folks interested in avoiding your email provider also being an advertising company, I switched to Fastmail* last year. They've got gmail import and full IMAP push support (something gmail canned years ago). I'd also love to see other hosted alternatives to gmail. I looked into rolling my own on EC2 but decided I didn't have the expertise to do it "right" * https://www.fastmail.com/ https://www.fastmail.com/

david-cako 9y ago
What is fastmail's sell other than their webmail interface? Seems very expensive to me. I pay $15 a year at mxroute for unlimited domains and users.
- zaksoup 9y ago
  I don't ever use their webmail, to be honest. I've got native mail clients on my devices that I connect to Fastmail with IMAP. To compare apples to apples it seems most relevant to compare storage tiers, MXroute is 5/month for 20gb, Fastmail's 5/month plan is 25gb (but single-user only). I personally don't really want to deal with cPanel, too. Not because cPanel isn't cool, but because I explicitly wanted to pay somebody to do the management for me so I didn't have to get too in-the-weeds. I'm certain I'd misconfigure something somewhere and I just don't want to deal with that. EOD it seems mostly like personal preference and how much you want to tinker. Value for both seem close to the same.
  - david-cako 9y ago
    Ah, maybe I have a pretty hot promo deal then, I've got unlimited at mxroute. I've also read mxroute's writeup on why they use cpanel, and apparently it just made sense to use it for user configuration, and that under the hood it's all a very unusual setup (I don't understand enough about email to be honest).

oftenwrong 9y ago

I wonder if they will keep the "Basic HTML" view.

rabboRubble 9y ago

Sorting columns would be nice! That's about the only missed feature. I hope they don't add more dead white space like they did when rebranding from the old blue design to the current red. Edit: oh god, I read on that article they want to merge Gmail and Inbox and the white space in Inbox is freeking horrible. Why? Why do this? I had looked at Inbox briefly and thought to myself no way. I can see 8 email in Inbox and 21 in Gmail today. One email in inbox has embedded spammy ad pictures that absorbs 3x the normal amount of space. https://inbox.google.com/ https://inbox.google.com/

rabboRubble 9y ago
Further edit to the edit: Ran across an article with better images of the redesigned GUI. First glance, it looks good. Compact display of information, balanced interface controls, better coloring scheme. That all said, proof will be in the pudding~ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/04/gmail-com-redesign-leaks-looks-pretty-incredible/#p3 https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/04/gmail-com-redesign-l...

ajeet_dhaliwal 9y ago

If this is true I wonder whether this kills Inbox. I prefer Inbox over the Gmail interface and use it exclusively. I have an iPhone X and 5 months later, the Inbox app has not been updated for the iPhone X screen, I think it's the only Google app I have that hasn't been.

ocdtrekkie 9y ago
Since Inbox was a failed attempt at a Gmail redesign, my guess is that it will go away if the new one doesn't send people running and screaming for the hills.
- ajeet_dhaliwal 9y ago
  I think Inbox is great, why do you say it's a failed attempt? I don't think it tried to replace Gmail, it's it's own thing.
  - ocdtrekkie 9y ago
    It was intended to replace Gmail, and they halted doing so because even their own employees revolted: https://techcrunch.com/2014/11/16/why-did-google-decide-to-split-inbox-from-gmail/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/11/16/why-did-google-decide-to-s... This is probably why Gmail is nearly the last Google product that looks like it did in the 2000s: they had to start over.
zwily 9y ago
I'd place a lot of money on a bet that this kills Inbox. Inbox on iOS still doesn't support iPhone X, 6 months later. This tells me that engineers aren't doing any new work on it. (It has had updates every couple weeks with "bug fixes").
awakeasleep 9y ago
Inbox is going to be Google's sandbox to test new ideas about email, with the most successful features graduating to gmail itself. So progressive enhancement/alteration for now, not a product shutdown

rakibtg 9y ago

I wonder what Inbox would do? I have been using Inbox though it is not doing great! Sometimes i need to switch to the Gmail in order to get things done.

stefan_ 9y ago

I'm excited to discover which current Gmail features Google will deem surplus in this re"design". That seems to be the trend when a new look is rolled out.

neuromantik8086 9y ago
I'll bust out the popcorn when threads like this [1] start popping up and people complain until Google locks down posting. [1] https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/calendar/xd-5-vDxUNY https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/calendar/xd-5...
- kuschku 9y ago
  I never knew that feature existed, and now I wish I'd have used it :/

neuromantik8086 9y ago

Can we just agree to throw wads of cash at Thunderbird so that we can have an e-mail client that isn't dependent on Google's whims (both for good and for ill)? I like some of the features of Gmail (i.e., labels), but I'd prefer that we as a society try to move back to a more provider-agnostic internet.

awalton 9y ago
Feel free to put your money wherever you want. We're not stopping you from funding Thunderbird development. ...we're just gmail users because, however sadly, it's still the best damned mail client on the planet. Nobody's even come close since 2004. Everyone's had plenty of time to write a replacement - nobody has because email is a terrible technology and it's a thankless chore to work on/with.
- ocdtrekkie 9y ago
  FastMail's client is way zippier than Gmail's (seriously, when you scroll through a 10,000 email folder in moments without waiting for things to load, you wonder what black magic they're using to make it appear so seamless). Of course, it isn't free. Gmail's interface hasn't significantly improved since... maybe smart labels, several years ago? I'd argue it's been surpassed, and most of it's features are par for the course today. A much larger reason people are Gmail users is because it's incredibly hard to move providers if you have an (at)mailprovider.com email address.
  - shazow 9y ago
    Also Gmail's spam filtering is still unparalleled. I actually pipe my Fastmail through Gmail just for the spam filtering. Sigh. Kinda wish they released their spam filtering service as a stand-alone service.
    - jon_adler 9y ago
      You can customise your Fastmail spam filtering if needed, however after 15 years of Fastmail email, I still get virtual zero spam.

proxygeek 9y ago

I wonder if this also has something to do with their planned support for AMP in Gmail. If yes, then this might get tricky ...

ocdtrekkie 9y ago
Gmail already does dynamic content over email in the case of a first party service: Google+. It's unlikely a design refresh has anything to do with Google's intention to proprietarize email.

berg01 9y ago

Prepare yourselves for even more whitespace and even larger typefaces. It's the Material Design Way. (Let's not forget the current Gmail had a big design update that added lots of whitespace a few years ago.) That update from a reader who witnessed a Googler dogfooding the new UI was interesting: '“It was a hybrid of Gmail and Inbox,” he told me. “The left-side column was more like inbox.google.com and the right side was an enlarged version of Gmail.' Let's just hope they don't repeat the Google News redesign; forcing the content column to be fixed width. I'm looking at the new Material Design Google News right on a 40" 4k screen, the column with actual news items is like 30% of the width of the screen: https://imgur.com/a/EQY8Q https://imgur.com/a/EQY8Q Edit: Eeek. I just tried inbox.google.com. It behaves pretty much like the new Google News in terms of layout. I think this is what we can expect.

addicted 9y ago
Google News has become unusable for me. It used to be great to find a variety of sources about a certain topic. But now it’s become really hard to browse beyond the 2-3 articles that are privileged. I guess it fits in with the Google Search motivations of becoming an answer engine, instead of a search engine by providing a single specific answer instead of a breadth of resources to explore on your own.
- baud147258 9y ago
  I totaly agree. I started to use bing news at the time. Even if they don't offer multiple sources for each story, they offer sources that are more diverse (ie, not just the biggest news provider).
colemannugent 9y ago
Yeah, my biggest fear is that they will take away the "compact" display settings in favor of something more design'y. The first thing I do on any new phone is make the text size as small as possible so I don't have to scroll so damn much.
- reitanqild 9y ago

bshia 9y ago

I hope they add all possible sandboxes and spying codes also. They could ask from facebook advice how to deal eith privacy issues

anurag 9y ago

I'm looking forward to the redesign, but if you're a power user and want vim/emacs-like productivity in email, it's going to be very hard for Gmail to beat Superhuman (https://superhuman.com https://superhuman.com). Ping me if you'd like to get bumped to the top of the access queue. Email in profile. Not affiliated with them; just a happy user.

kps 9y ago
That page somehow neglects to say what the product is (email client? web service?) and also makes impossible claims (‘Undo Send’).
- ocdtrekkie 9y ago
  "Undo Send" features are pretty common (Gmail offers it as well), and essentially it just delays sending your emails for x minutes, so you can cancel an outgoing mail if you're prone to "oh shoot" the moment after you click the button.
- gauravvohra 9y ago
  We're an email client (currently web, macOS, iOS) to help you do your email twice as fast :)
  - kps 9y ago
    Thanks, that might actually be interesting. (I fear I'll have to retire Eudora eventually.)
camwiese 9y ago
Love the support :)
gauravvohra 9y ago
thanks for the shoutout Anurag :)

bhandziuk 9y ago

For me the only thing that needs to be fixed is that when my mouse ever so briefly glances over a contact in the Hangouts pane as the cursor traverses to the other monitor, that contact's card pops up and stays up indefinitely, looking at me. If it could never do that I'd be happy. Otherwise the gmail interface doesn't really need any improvement. It's email. there's not much special about it.

itakedrugs 9y ago

hopefully not as bad as the last one... reverting back would be an upgrade... Maybe this time they will decide to hide the TO field?

kanishkdudeja 9y ago

Update: A Google spokesperson has provided the following statement (emphasis included): “We’re working on some major updates to Gmail (they’re still in draft phase). We need a bit more time to compose ourselves, so can’t share anything yet—archive this for now, and we’ll let you know when it’s time to hit send.” As quoted on: https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/11/google-is-about-to-launch-a-gmail-web-redesign/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/11/google-is-about-to-launch-...

janitor61 9y ago

I really hope they don't get rid of the option to turn conversation view off. For me, conversation view adds in a lot of clutter that makes it difficult to see the message, plus lots of inline and collapsed-by-default content. I'd really like the ability to see what emails I've replied to (with conversation mode off), but pessimistically I'd expect we're getting mostly unneeded aesthetic changes and functionality regressions.

awakeasleep 9y ago
The options around conversation view are not only staying, but they're being built into the phone apps as well.

jbigelow76 9y ago

The first three items in your inbox will now be "Sponsored Email Placements", with organic email showing up underneath.

jiveturkey 9y ago

oh god please no. anyway airmail (app) is decent so maybe time to go back to a local client.

seba_dos1 9y ago

Just when I needed just a slight push to finally migrate away from Gmail to own mail server. Thanks Google! :) On a brighter side, basic HTML version still works very well in Gmail, hopefully that won't be broken with the redesign.

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youseecomrade 9y ago

Let me guess, it will follow the Google tradition of making it painfully slow or resource intensive to use on Firefox.