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I live in Oklahoma. People vote against her here because she's on the other team and 2+ decades of Republicans smearing her. 46% against concerns you more than

I live in Oklahoma. People vote against her here because she's on the other team and 2+ decades of Republicans smearing her. 46% against concerns you more than 48% against? Lmfao. Oklahoma is a subsidized state full of ignorant people for the most part. I live in an "educated" town and its abysmal here just the same. So when propaganda/marketing to people that don't even understand the basics, Hillary gonna take UR guns and murder them babbies, sells quite well. All the while everything is reverting to the ownership class. I'm well off so it will all be fine for me, but for the working middle-class and poor. It's only going to get worse, and voting for Republicans for the past 4 decades has clearly shown that to be the case.

danShumway 9y ago
I didn't expect Trump to win - I thought that people who were giving Hillary an 80% chance were not giving her enough credit. So... yeah. 46% for is more surprising to me than 48% against. I honestly expected closer to 60% against. My takeaway from election night was, "Oh, I really don't understand American demographics very well."
- Izkata 9y ago
  > "Oh, I really don't understand American demographics very well." Every few years, something pops up that shows most of us don't understand our own demographics. Such as polls where the majority of Americans estimate the black population to be around 40% (it's actually around 10-15%), or the LGBT population around 20-30% (it's actually around 5%, maybe even lower), or, well, the Trump election. My personal take: The media was so focused on Trump's personality quirks that, however bad they are, it seemed like they had nothing bad to say about his actual ability, accidentally making him appear like a pretty good candidate (especially compared to the actually-relevant-to-the-job controversies around Clinton, like email security). So while I was a bit surprised that he won, I always expected it to be a close race. I think ability-vs-personality is one of those things that people largely mistake what other people will care about.
  - itronitron 9y ago
    I remember hearing Podesta in an interview on NPR a few days before the election and at that point, hearing Podesta talk, I realized that Trump had a very good chance of winning. Podesta gave Trump way too much credibility despite everything that had already happened in the campaign.

danShumway 9y ago

I didn't expect Trump to win - I thought that people who were giving Hillary an 80% chance were not giving her enough credit. So... yeah. 46% for is more surprising to me than 48% against. I honestly expected closer to 60% against. My takeaway from election night was, "Oh, I really don't understand American demographics very well."

Izkata 9y ago
> "Oh, I really don't understand American demographics very well." Every few years, something pops up that shows most of us don't understand our own demographics. Such as polls where the majority of Americans estimate the black population to be around 40% (it's actually around 10-15%), or the LGBT population around 20-30% (it's actually around 5%, maybe even lower), or, well, the Trump election. My personal take: The media was so focused on Trump's personality quirks that, however bad they are, it seemed like they had nothing bad to say about his actual ability, accidentally making him appear like a pretty good candidate (especially compared to the actually-relevant-to-the-job controversies around Clinton, like email security). So while I was a bit surprised that he won, I always expected it to be a close race. I think ability-vs-personality is one of those things that people largely mistake what other people will care about.
- itronitron 9y ago
  I remember hearing Podesta in an interview on NPR a few days before the election and at that point, hearing Podesta talk, I realized that Trump had a very good chance of winning. Podesta gave Trump way too much credibility despite everything that had already happened in the campaign.