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Also, China is moving in the exact opposite direction with the Perfect Citizen system by trying to change people's behavior with the help of algorithms. Senato

by mtgx 9y ago

Also, China is moving in the exact opposite direction with the Perfect Citizen system by trying to change people's behavior with the help of algorithms. Senator Grassley also said yesterday at the very end of the Zuckerberg hearing that he hopes someone with Zuck's influence and other such platforms would do something to "reduce the cynicism people have towards Congress." That sounded pretty scary. I get that the mainstream media (and more recently Facebook propaganda, but this is definitely a much older issue) is partly to blame for polarizing America, but asking companies to actively try to influence how people think about their governments sounds like the wrong direction to take to me. I also don't think it's any better than say Fox News trying to polarize people. https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/meetings/facebook-social-media-privacy-and-the-use-and-abuse-of-data https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/meetings/facebook-social-me...

ILikeConemowk 9y ago
>but asking companies to actively try to influence how people think about their governments This is what many don't understand, or don't want to understand, this is why some big players are pissed at Facebook, very very pissed. She was supposed to win, they had to help her win. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/56638#efmAAGAA2ADoAD0AElAE1AFCAFRAHdAI2 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/56638#efmAAGAA2... https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/19070 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/19070 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15092 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15092 --- From:sheryl@fb.com To: john.podesta@gmail.com Date: 2016-01-02 22:07 Subject: RE: Happy New Year I am thrilled at the progress Hillary is making. [...] 2015 was challenging, but we ended in a good place thanks to your help and support. Look forward to working with you to elect the first woman President of the United States. Have a great New Year. -John
- Volt 9y ago
  Is that the proof? How weak.
John_KZ 9y ago
For me the realization that politicians just accept and use facebook for their own means instead of being opposed to it was a really bitter realization. I was hoping that when they started realizing the potential, they'd feel threatened and require it to cease working that way. Instead they all run PR campaigns on social media, and they probably collect data on their voters too if they can. It's just too disgusting to bear. Not just the US either, this is happening all across Europe.

by mtgx 9y ago

ILikeConemowk 9y ago

>but asking companies to actively try to influence how people think about their governments This is what many don't understand, or don't want to understand, this is why some big players are pissed at Facebook, very very pissed. She was supposed to win, they had to help her win. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/56638#efmAAGAA2ADoAD0AElAE1AFCAFRAHdAI2 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/56638#efmAAGAA2... https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/19070 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/19070 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15092 https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15092 --- From:sheryl@fb.com To: john.podesta@gmail.com Date: 2016-01-02 22:07 Subject: RE: Happy New Year I am thrilled at the progress Hillary is making. [...] 2015 was challenging, but we ended in a good place thanks to your help and support. Look forward to working with you to elect the first woman President of the United States. Have a great New Year. -John

Volt 9y ago
Is that the proof? How weak.

John_KZ 9y ago

For me the realization that politicians just accept and use facebook for their own means instead of being opposed to it was a really bitter realization. I was hoping that when they started realizing the potential, they'd feel threatened and require it to cease working that way. Instead they all run PR campaigns on social media, and they probably collect data on their voters too if they can. It's just too disgusting to bear. Not just the US either, this is happening all across Europe.