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Double standards by whom?? Every other article or comment I’ve read since basically py3+1y has been incredibly negative about it. The only positive news about P

Double standards by whom?? Every other article or comment I’ve read since basically py3+1y has been incredibly negative about it. The only positive news about Python, recently, seems from people who were not around since the py2 days. Data science is where it’s at now, but it used to be massive and ubiquitous. Golang came at a time where public perception of Python was down the drain, and ate a big chunk of its lunch.

samastur 9y ago
I've been around since ~1.5 and have no idea what you are talking about. I suspect our perception is very much coloured by where and whom you are hanging out with. Agree that there was never a shortage of negative articles about py2/py3 transition. Fairly certain Golang success was down to its advantages more than Python's perception who's use has grown through all this time.
goatlover 9y ago
> and ate a big chunk of its lunch Pretty sure that's not true. Golang might have taken some from Python web frameworks or command line tools, but that's about it. Python's popularity in scientific computing has only grown over time, and that encompasses a lot of fields and users, not just data science.
ianamartin 9y ago
My interpretation of the usage share is that Golang ate a bunch of lunch that would've otherwise gone to Python. That is, people moving from other languages (Perl, PhP) to something else for various reasons. Absent Go, I suspect many current Gophers would've landed on Python. So in a sense, Python lost people to Go. But I've never seen anything to indicate that there was a large migration from Python to Go, and certainly not because of 2 to 3 or public perception--whatever that means in the context of a programming language. Python 2 is still the mainstay for Data Scientists. I've seen more resistance to moving to 3 there than almost anywhere. Which is pretty funny because it's the easiest code to port assuming your data science libs support 3 (and all the big ones do.) I think it's more accurate to say that Go ended up with some of Python's potential mindshare, not that it stole a significant amount of existing mindshare.

samastur 9y ago

I've been around since ~1.5 and have no idea what you are talking about. I suspect our perception is very much coloured by where and whom you are hanging out with. Agree that there was never a shortage of negative articles about py2/py3 transition. Fairly certain Golang success was down to its advantages more than Python's perception who's use has grown through all this time.

goatlover 9y ago

> and ate a big chunk of its lunch Pretty sure that's not true. Golang might have taken some from Python web frameworks or command line tools, but that's about it. Python's popularity in scientific computing has only grown over time, and that encompasses a lot of fields and users, not just data science.

ianamartin 9y ago

My interpretation of the usage share is that Golang ate a bunch of lunch that would've otherwise gone to Python. That is, people moving from other languages (Perl, PhP) to something else for various reasons. Absent Go, I suspect many current Gophers would've landed on Python. So in a sense, Python lost people to Go. But I've never seen anything to indicate that there was a large migration from Python to Go, and certainly not because of 2 to 3 or public perception--whatever that means in the context of a programming language. Python 2 is still the mainstay for Data Scientists. I've seen more resistance to moving to 3 there than almost anywhere. Which is pretty funny because it's the easiest code to port assuming your data science libs support 3 (and all the big ones do.) I think it's more accurate to say that Go ended up with some of Python's potential mindshare, not that it stole a significant amount of existing mindshare.