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Tesla is still more consumer-friendly in this respect than any other car manufacturer I know of. You have to pay for map updates in most other cars... it's not

by DKnoll 9y ago

Tesla is still more consumer-friendly in this respect than any other car manufacturer I know of. You have to pay for map updates in most other cars... it's not cheap either.

gopi 9y ago
yup, its cost around $500 to update in some, crazy!
dragonwriter 9y ago
> Tesla is still more consumer-friendly in this respect than any other car manufacturer I know of. Tesla's the only car manufacturer selling vehicles that supposedly have full autonomy hardware with full autonomy itself a near-future firmware update away. That becomes meaningless hype on a whole new level if the many owners the Tesla rep acknowledges have stated a need for this can get firmware updates but not map updates.
- DKnoll 9y ago
  They can get map updates for free, all they need is WiFi access... am I missing something here? There is free public WiFi all over. I'm shocked that the complaint comes from the SF area of all places, there is probably a higher density of WiFi there than anywhere else on the planet.
  - dragonwriter 9y ago
    > They can get map updates for free, all they need is WiFi access... am I missing something here? There is free public WiFi all over. The updates can't be triggered by the user, so you have to leave your car somewhere (or your phone in your car) for a extended period of time to hope to get an update. There's also not free public parking everywhere (much less free public parking with WiFi coverage), especially in the urban areas where “my parking is remote from my living space and doesn't share wifi with it” is most likely to be an issue. Also, outside of certain urban areas (and this can still be a problem outside of urban areas) there isn't free public WiFi everywhere.
izacus 9y ago
Is it? For my Mazda I just pop the SD card in the laptop and use their app. Didn't have to pay anything yet.
setquk 9y ago
Yep pay £100 for a hooky 3rd party copy of an official DVD for your Land Rover at least and then have to fuck around for ages trying to get it to work. That's because the official one is about £300 a year.

by DKnoll 9y ago

Tesla is still more consumer-friendly in this respect than any other car manufacturer I know of. You have to pay for map updates in most other cars... it's not cheap either.

gopi 9y ago

yup, its cost around $500 to update in some, crazy!

dragonwriter 9y ago

> Tesla is still more consumer-friendly in this respect than any other car manufacturer I know of. Tesla's the only car manufacturer selling vehicles that supposedly have full autonomy hardware with full autonomy itself a near-future firmware update away. That becomes meaningless hype on a whole new level if the many owners the Tesla rep acknowledges have stated a need for this can get firmware updates but not map updates.

DKnoll 9y ago
They can get map updates for free, all they need is WiFi access... am I missing something here? There is free public WiFi all over. I'm shocked that the complaint comes from the SF area of all places, there is probably a higher density of WiFi there than anywhere else on the planet.
- dragonwriter 9y ago
  > They can get map updates for free, all they need is WiFi access... am I missing something here? There is free public WiFi all over. The updates can't be triggered by the user, so you have to leave your car somewhere (or your phone in your car) for a extended period of time to hope to get an update. There's also not free public parking everywhere (much less free public parking with WiFi coverage), especially in the urban areas where “my parking is remote from my living space and doesn't share wifi with it” is most likely to be an issue. Also, outside of certain urban areas (and this can still be a problem outside of urban areas) there isn't free public WiFi everywhere.

izacus 9y ago

Is it? For my Mazda I just pop the SD card in the laptop and use their app. Didn't have to pay anything yet.

setquk 9y ago

Yep pay £100 for a hooky 3rd party copy of an official DVD for your Land Rover at least and then have to fuck around for ages trying to get it to work. That's because the official one is about £300 a year.