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Regarding [1], it is possible to opt out of facebook: don't visit websites with Facebook like/share buttons. (This website, for example). When you access a webs

Regarding [1], it is possible to opt out of facebook: don't visit websites with Facebook like/share buttons. (This website, for example). When you access a website with facebook tracking installed, you are consenting to being tracked.

paxys 8y ago
Or just install any of the hundred ad and tracking blockers out there.
zaarn 8y ago
I did not consent to being tracked by facebook. Yet websites try again and again to load the facebook like button. As per GDPR, which is in effect but not enforced until May, tracking me without explicitly and clearly asking me if that is okay is not allowed and anything else, like withdrawing service until I agree to be tracked, does not construct consent. When I visit a new website I do not know if they have facebook like buttons. I have to load the page to check that and without a script or ad blocker I will also load the like button and facebook will track that. At which point in that process did I consent to any and all scripts on that webpage leeching of my personal data?
- dingaling 8y ago
  > Yet websites try again and again to load the facebook like button. Take that up with the websites, not Facebook. Vast numbers of websites use Google Web Fonts which enables Google to track users. I didn't opt in to that so I just block it.
  - zaarn 8y ago
    Yes but technically less inclined users won't block and don't consent to it either. Visiting a website is not consent for tracking.
vezycash 8y ago
>don't VISIT websites with Facebook like/share buttons. So people should know a site uses Facebook share buttons before opening it through Google search. Then, they should keep closing pages until they find the one that don't have share buttons. Then, memorize a list of "safe sites?"
- Moru 8y ago
  I know this isn't the best solution but uBlock has a list that blocks all social buttons for you. Very easy to install and use.
  - gorhill 8y ago
    The Fanboy Social list is mostly cosmetic filtering, it won't prevent connection to Facebook servers. For this I suggest dynamic filtering[1], as this guarantees there will be no connection to sites with block rules, and block rules can be easily locally overridden in case it is needed for a specific site. [1] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dynamic-filtering:-to-easily-reduce-privacy-exposure https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dynamic-filtering:-to...
  - vezycash 8y ago
    I use uBlock, Nanodefender, Adguard and HOST blocks.
CaptainZapp 8y ago
When you access a website with facebook tracking installed, you are consenting to being tracked. Sorry, but that's just silly. That's about as if I advise you that when you don't like to be tracked by Facebook then don't use the internet.
- Moru 8y ago
  Besides, the GDPR is clearly not allowing things like that. It has to be consent given and I have to be aware that I gave consent. It is not ok to use implicit consent. Checkbox or it didn't happen. Bury it in long legalese isn't accepted either.
ionised 8y ago
How would you know a site has those buttons or not unless you visit it first?

paxys 8y ago

Or just install any of the hundred ad and tracking blockers out there.

zaarn 8y ago

I did not consent to being tracked by facebook. Yet websites try again and again to load the facebook like button. As per GDPR, which is in effect but not enforced until May, tracking me without explicitly and clearly asking me if that is okay is not allowed and anything else, like withdrawing service until I agree to be tracked, does not construct consent. When I visit a new website I do not know if they have facebook like buttons. I have to load the page to check that and without a script or ad blocker I will also load the like button and facebook will track that. At which point in that process did I consent to any and all scripts on that webpage leeching of my personal data?

dingaling 8y ago
> Yet websites try again and again to load the facebook like button. Take that up with the websites, not Facebook. Vast numbers of websites use Google Web Fonts which enables Google to track users. I didn't opt in to that so I just block it.
- zaarn 8y ago
  Yes but technically less inclined users won't block and don't consent to it either. Visiting a website is not consent for tracking.

vezycash 8y ago

>don't VISIT websites with Facebook like/share buttons. So people should know a site uses Facebook share buttons before opening it through Google search. Then, they should keep closing pages until they find the one that don't have share buttons. Then, memorize a list of "safe sites?"

Moru 8y ago
I know this isn't the best solution but uBlock has a list that blocks all social buttons for you. Very easy to install and use.
- gorhill 8y ago
  The Fanboy Social list is mostly cosmetic filtering, it won't prevent connection to Facebook servers. For this I suggest dynamic filtering[1], as this guarantees there will be no connection to sites with block rules, and block rules can be easily locally overridden in case it is needed for a specific site. [1] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dynamic-filtering:-to-easily-reduce-privacy-exposure https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dynamic-filtering:-to...
- vezycash 8y ago
  I use uBlock, Nanodefender, Adguard and HOST blocks.

CaptainZapp 8y ago

When you access a website with facebook tracking installed, you are consenting to being tracked. Sorry, but that's just silly. That's about as if I advise you that when you don't like to be tracked by Facebook then don't use the internet.

Moru 8y ago
Besides, the GDPR is clearly not allowing things like that. It has to be consent given and I have to be aware that I gave consent. It is not ok to use implicit consent. Checkbox or it didn't happen. Bury it in long legalese isn't accepted either.

ionised 8y ago

How would you know a site has those buttons or not unless you visit it first?