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OK, enjoy Git then. Your claim about merging is false though, demonstrably. Picking a repo gca when you could have used a much closer file gca is better. BK

OK, enjoy Git then. Your claim about merging is false though, demonstrably. Picking a repo gca when you could have used a much closer file gca is better. BK does that and automerges, correctly, more frequently and is way way faster than Git. I've written two source management systems. I'm confident in my knowledge. Arguing with some random dude who thinks he knows more than me is not really fun. So go enjoy Git. Lots of people are too busy/whatever to know what they are missing, maybe that's you. It's not me, I kinda like my audit trail to be accurate. Even Linus admitted to me in my kitchen that Git's audit trail is lossy. But go enjoy Git, I'm glad it works for you. Knock yourself out.

jayd16 9y ago
So why do you think BitKeeper failed and git is current leader in popularity?
- philipwhiuk 9y ago
  It was proprietary for ages.
  - jayd16 9y ago
    That doesn't really explain why perforce, and mercurial seem more popular, nor the lack of current buzz around the project. I could be wrong but I can't say the mind share is very high.
- joesb 9y ago
  It was proprietary. Linus wrote Git. Fanboy followed.
- deleted 9y ago
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kadenshep 9y ago
>BK does that and automerges, correctly, more frequently and is way way faster than Git. Demonstrate it. You said it was demonstrable so presumably your Totally Sane SCM project should have evidence to back this up. >Arguing with some random dude who thinks he knows more than me is not really fun. Why because you basically made a complete fool of yourself? >Even Linus admitted to me in my kitchen that Git's audit trail is lossy. You might describe it as FUZZY, but not "lossy." Nothing is being "lost." My random internet dude that is actually an insane assertion to make, especially the anecdote about Linus being in your god damn kitchen. Not that it really changes anything about the characteristics of any SCM and why people use it. >But go enjoy Git, I'm glad it works for you. Enjoy your dead project. Glad it could be surrounded by a graveyard of other Totally Sane (C) SCM's who are collectively responsible for an untold amount of wasted man hours and licensing fees.
- luckydude 9y ago
  Linus, in my kitchen, surrounded by impressed women who were asking how he lost weight. He had just answered the question "did you give up drinking" with a "hell, no!" http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/photos/2007/05/276.html http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/photos/2007/05/276.html ZFS guys (Brian, Jeff and Bill) at the same party (I thought I had one with Linus and them, they were all at the same table talking file systems): http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/photos/2007/05/257.html http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/photos/2007/05/257.html Funny story, I invited Linus to the pig roast and he didn't RSVP so there wasn't anywhere for him to sleep. I ended up sticking him and his daughter in a VW popup van :) You can kindly wander off now, random internet dude. Especially since the guy who wrote Git agrees that it is lossy, so take your FUZZY and go home.
  - kadenshep 9y ago
    Still waiting on the "demonstrable" facts. Uh, you are completely misunderstanding why it was a silly anecdote Mr. Dead Project maintainer. It's based on your personal recollection of events. Him physically being somewhere doesn't make what you said true -- especially since it doesn't TECHNICALLY make sense. Please explain to me, in technical detail how git is "lossy." I won't hold my breath. EDIT: Your profile indicates that you are the CEO of the company that makes bitkeeper. You are referencing a conversation, that if I'm reading right, apparently happened around 2007. You've made an assertion that this is what Linus said (despite it not technically making any sense, so I have some serious doubts about that). You have elsewhere around the thread also chosen to paint BitKeeper's "unadoption" as a simple matter of licensing issues, despite textual evidence in the Linux mailing list archives CONSISTENTLY pinpointing technical problems that the team had with BitKeeper and Linus himself in one thread specifically stating he wanted Git to be nothing like BK. You are ignoring that in your magical BK timeline, you had TWO separate projects (Git and Mercurial) both pop up at basically the same time, adopt literally nothing from BitKeeper, move the Linux project off BK and onto Git, and then proceeded to completely dominate your software product for technical reasons (and not simple licensing issues, people pay for SCM's even now) to the point where BK is now open source. Basically, you seem like you're being pretty fucking dishonest and disingenuous right now and are rather salty the whole world doesn't agree that your SCM is Totally Sane (TM).
ngrilly 9y ago
> Arguing with some random dude who thinks he knows more than me is not really fun. That comment is not very nice and does not serve your otherwise interesting comments.

jayd16 9y ago

So why do you think BitKeeper failed and git is current leader in popularity?

philipwhiuk 9y ago
It was proprietary for ages.
- jayd16 9y ago
  That doesn't really explain why perforce, and mercurial seem more popular, nor the lack of current buzz around the project. I could be wrong but I can't say the mind share is very high.
joesb 9y ago
It was proprietary. Linus wrote Git. Fanboy followed.
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kadenshep 9y ago

>BK does that and automerges, correctly, more frequently and is way way faster than Git. Demonstrate it. You said it was demonstrable so presumably your Totally Sane SCM project should have evidence to back this up. >Arguing with some random dude who thinks he knows more than me is not really fun. Why because you basically made a complete fool of yourself? >Even Linus admitted to me in my kitchen that Git's audit trail is lossy. You might describe it as FUZZY, but not "lossy." Nothing is being "lost." My random internet dude that is actually an insane assertion to make, especially the anecdote about Linus being in your god damn kitchen. Not that it really changes anything about the characteristics of any SCM and why people use it. >But go enjoy Git, I'm glad it works for you. Enjoy your dead project. Glad it could be surrounded by a graveyard of other Totally Sane (C) SCM's who are collectively responsible for an untold amount of wasted man hours and licensing fees.

luckydude 9y ago
Linus, in my kitchen, surrounded by impressed women who were asking how he lost weight. He had just answered the question "did you give up drinking" with a "hell, no!" http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/photos/2007/05/276.html http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/photos/2007/05/276.html ZFS guys (Brian, Jeff and Bill) at the same party (I thought I had one with Linus and them, they were all at the same table talking file systems): http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/photos/2007/05/257.html http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/photos/2007/05/257.html Funny story, I invited Linus to the pig roast and he didn't RSVP so there wasn't anywhere for him to sleep. I ended up sticking him and his daughter in a VW popup van :) You can kindly wander off now, random internet dude. Especially since the guy who wrote Git agrees that it is lossy, so take your FUZZY and go home.
- kadenshep 9y ago
  Still waiting on the "demonstrable" facts. Uh, you are completely misunderstanding why it was a silly anecdote Mr. Dead Project maintainer. It's based on your personal recollection of events. Him physically being somewhere doesn't make what you said true -- especially since it doesn't TECHNICALLY make sense. Please explain to me, in technical detail how git is "lossy." I won't hold my breath. EDIT: Your profile indicates that you are the CEO of the company that makes bitkeeper. You are referencing a conversation, that if I'm reading right, apparently happened around 2007. You've made an assertion that this is what Linus said (despite it not technically making any sense, so I have some serious doubts about that). You have elsewhere around the thread also chosen to paint BitKeeper's "unadoption" as a simple matter of licensing issues, despite textual evidence in the Linux mailing list archives CONSISTENTLY pinpointing technical problems that the team had with BitKeeper and Linus himself in one thread specifically stating he wanted Git to be nothing like BK. You are ignoring that in your magical BK timeline, you had TWO separate projects (Git and Mercurial) both pop up at basically the same time, adopt literally nothing from BitKeeper, move the Linux project off BK and onto Git, and then proceeded to completely dominate your software product for technical reasons (and not simple licensing issues, people pay for SCM's even now) to the point where BK is now open source. Basically, you seem like you're being pretty fucking dishonest and disingenuous right now and are rather salty the whole world doesn't agree that your SCM is Totally Sane (TM).

ngrilly 9y ago

> Arguing with some random dude who thinks he knows more than me is not really fun. That comment is not very nice and does not serve your otherwise interesting comments.