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Yeah, the drawbacks of it being absurdly easy to get a "computer science degree" in India are real. And something I've also seen other major companies encounte

Yeah, the drawbacks of it being absurdly easy to get a "computer science degree" in India are real. And something I've also seen other major companies encounter is the total lack of any respect for IP law. If you want to get your app built cheap.... and then find your competitor running a reskinned identical version a month later... sure, outsource it.

devnetfx 9y ago
Absurdly easy to get a "computer science degree" in India It wasn't easy at all for me. I spend three years doing graduation in Bachelor of Computer Applications in India (early 2000). The coursework alone was so much that you would have "learn" something. On top of that, I did private diploma from NIIT for "practical" exercises (at that time NIIT and Aptech were quite popular among students) While I came to Australia for Masters, most of my friends did Master of Computer Applications (three years) in India. Six years of computer studies are bound to give you some knowledge!
- xapata 9y ago
  > Six years of computer studies are bound to give you some knowledge! Why? There are plenty of classes that teach nothing, perhaps even teach bad habits.
- otakucode 9y ago
  I shouldn't have spoken so generally, and I apologize. My knowledge of the situation is derived from researching the coursework involved in receiving a PhD in Computer Science from Bangalore University. At the time I researched it, it required (American) high school level math and then 6 months of additional courses. I had a professor who had 2 PhDs from this 'school'. In an 'Intro to Object Oriented Programming with C++' course, he taught us the wrong way to use cin to get a number from the user then assigned homework writing a program that accepted two integers and printed out their sum. At the next class, he announced that anyone who wrote the code as he instructed would receive an A despite it not working... and anyone who looked up how to make it actually work would get an F for not listening to him. A group of fellow students and I went straight to the department chair and he was shortly fired. That inspired me to research where he got his 'degrees' from.
screye 9y ago
I would like to qualify this statement. Getting a sub-par CS degree in India is extremely easy. There are a good number of bogus universities in the countries. Getting into a well reputed (top 50?) Indian CS program is multiple orders of magnitude harder than it is in the west. Most students qualifying for any of these programs would be capable of aceing the SATs. To give you an idea, the Indian equivalent of the engineering/CS SATs are taken by 1-1.5 million student annually. The top 50 programs have less than 20,000 combined positions. You need to be in the 98th percentile and above to get in. It is common for students to study 10+ hours a day for 2-4 years straight, to meet the above requirements. Whole childhoods get sacrificed for the rat race. Opportunity in India does not come easy.

devnetfx 9y ago

Absurdly easy to get a "computer science degree" in India It wasn't easy at all for me. I spend three years doing graduation in Bachelor of Computer Applications in India (early 2000). The coursework alone was so much that you would have "learn" something. On top of that, I did private diploma from NIIT for "practical" exercises (at that time NIIT and Aptech were quite popular among students) While I came to Australia for Masters, most of my friends did Master of Computer Applications (three years) in India. Six years of computer studies are bound to give you some knowledge!

xapata 9y ago
> Six years of computer studies are bound to give you some knowledge! Why? There are plenty of classes that teach nothing, perhaps even teach bad habits.
otakucode 9y ago
I shouldn't have spoken so generally, and I apologize. My knowledge of the situation is derived from researching the coursework involved in receiving a PhD in Computer Science from Bangalore University. At the time I researched it, it required (American) high school level math and then 6 months of additional courses. I had a professor who had 2 PhDs from this 'school'. In an 'Intro to Object Oriented Programming with C++' course, he taught us the wrong way to use cin to get a number from the user then assigned homework writing a program that accepted two integers and printed out their sum. At the next class, he announced that anyone who wrote the code as he instructed would receive an A despite it not working... and anyone who looked up how to make it actually work would get an F for not listening to him. A group of fellow students and I went straight to the department chair and he was shortly fired. That inspired me to research where he got his 'degrees' from.

screye 9y ago

I would like to qualify this statement. Getting a sub-par CS degree in India is extremely easy. There are a good number of bogus universities in the countries. Getting into a well reputed (top 50?) Indian CS program is multiple orders of magnitude harder than it is in the west. Most students qualifying for any of these programs would be capable of aceing the SATs. To give you an idea, the Indian equivalent of the engineering/CS SATs are taken by 1-1.5 million student annually. The top 50 programs have less than 20,000 combined positions. You need to be in the 98th percentile and above to get in. It is common for students to study 10+ hours a day for 2-4 years straight, to meet the above requirements. Whole childhoods get sacrificed for the rat race. Opportunity in India does not come easy.