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Ted Cruz clearly showing that he's a partisan hack. Didn't give a crap about users' privacy or the issues at hand, he had to make it about 'liberal Silicon Val
by Zimahl 9y ago
Ted Cruz clearly showing that he's a partisan hack. Didn't give a crap about users' privacy or the issues at hand, he had to make it about 'liberal Silicon Valley' and 'conservative persecution'. What a joke.
- dusing 9y agoI believe others had been covering privacy pretty well. When it comes to 20k people manually policing content - it is probably good that the group be neutral.
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- Zimahl 9y agoYet he only asked about conservative causes and people that were affected by Facebook policies. It gives the appearance that Facebook is only policing conservative content. I'm sure if one looked, you could find liberal causes and people that were policed as well.
- dusing 9y agoZuck had himself just said that people living in silicon valley are overwhelmingly left leaning. So when he says they have 20k back home policing content it would makes sense to assume those 20k people are included in the group Zuck summarizes as overwhelmingly left leaning. Worth asking about.
- kevindqc 9y agoAre people doing the policing in Silicon Valley though? Why pay that much for people if someone remote/outsourced can do it for much cheaper?
- setr 9y agoThe people laying down the policies, managing the remote workers output, checking potentially controversial policing, etc are presumably at some point in the chain landing in SV. Presumably, the decisions aren't being left solely to the discretion of the grunts.
- 18pfsmt 9y agoHe also emphasized that the majority of their users are not speaking English or in the US, so their foreign workforce would not reflect the political views of SV nor the US.
- Slansitartop 9y ago> so their foreign workforce would not reflect the political views of SV nor the US. However, at a minimum, the Facebook employees setting the polices those foreign workers follow will be in both the US and SV, so you can't assume their actions will be aloof from American politics.
- stevenwoo 9y agoThere was something I read last year that interviewed outsourcing content monitors - a sizeable percentage of monitors were in the Philippines for US/UK English Facebook posts.
- mrlala 9y agoIt's almost a completely biased question. Objectively: who engages in hate speech? The far right. The far left may be overly accepting of everything, let's say.. they are not the ones engaging in hate speech. So it's no surprise that far right pages would be banned way more often than far left pages.
- chmln 9y ago"Hate speech" and "objective" don't belong in the same sentence. It is a subjective term open to interpretation, which is why it's dangerous.
- r00fus 9y agoIt has a definition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech
- tim333 9y ago>Hate speech is speech that attacks a person or group on the basis of attributes such as race, religion, ethnic origin, sexual orientation, disability, or gender. So if I say frat bros are idiots am I guilty? There are grey areas.
- LifeLiverTransp 9y agoHate-speech, is a definition, so s/he/it who has the power to postulate definitions is defining what hate is. Power to the social-sys-admins!
- echlebek 9y agoNot really, if you use the definition of hate speech that commonwealth countries have written legislation about. I don't buy at all that it's dangerous.
- angersock 9y agoYou're conveniently ignoring the mass witch hunts for nazis and other folks with wrongthink. It's a valid concern. EDIT: The downvotes kind of illustrate my point for me. There are a lot of people, especially with Twitter pile-on culture, that get lumped in by lefties as being nazis, misogynists, or whatever, and then this gets repeated by others until they're stuck with the label.
- baalimago 9y agoHe's a good representative to show how Facebook actually are politically bias to some degree, where they absolutely shouldn't be. I'm sure there are examples of similar actions to the 'left' also, and if there aren't now there might become in the future when the political winds change. I think Cruz played his role as partial acknowledged politician very well.
- AndrewKemendo 9y agoHis line of questioning as to whether or not Facebook asked new hires their political affiliations was also very unprofessional. He knew the answer (no, because that's so clearly egregiously illegal) but wanted to make the insinuation.
- dclowd9901 9y agoI was very surprised by the poignancy of Sen. Hatch's interview questions around Facebook's clear intentions of harvesting data vs. its lack of transparency in its agreements and such. Of course, as a Republican, he stopped short of suggesting regulation around making EULAs under 50 words and written at a 6th grade level... too bad.
- sdca 9y agoHis line of questioning was designed to expose discrepancies in stated policies versus actual implementation, with the goal of eroding trust of Facebook in that half of electorate. Eroding trust was the whole point that the hearing was called, and in that regard Cruz probably had the best questions. His questions were met with denials rather than "I'll get back to you on that".