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Let me try to address your points in general since I assume the question is whether productivity is worth 'pedestalizing'? Even if you forget about the impact
by SubuSS 8y ago
Let me try to address your points in general since I assume the question is whether productivity is worth 'pedestalizing'?
Even if you forget about the impact to company / society / civilization and focus simply on yourself, you can see that you get X hours in total and one shot at life. If you pare it down by necessary but not directly productive hours like downtime / time spent towards learning / physical-mental well being etc. You get Y which is very much lesser than X.
Some folks want to maximize the heck out of this Y just because they have so many things they want to get done OR they have chosen to listen to someone / company that tells them that they should get all of those done.
Usually maximization like that in comparison to a lifestyle that maximizes consumption is always 'pedestalized' because of a few reasons:
- historically they have moved the bottom line on many real world scenarios.
- someone else values it enough that they pay actual money for it (I am yet to find a viable lifestyle option that will pay me money :). I personally value money because it buys me time (via ability to delegate) and experiences with the limited time I have.
- When you have a ton of things you want to get done (irrespective of socio-economic impact) and little time, there is no other choice.
I agree it might be 'marginal behavior' which is what makes it so sought after. There are folks who can't get there, folks who don't want to get there, folks who will try but won't get there and a ton of mortals who will get somewhere close. In general, humans want to make a difference in some way, we see the Elon's of the world somehow making a difference and folks chase after it (hence pedestalizing). IOW your question will make more sense if we are immortal :)
- throw2016 8y agoPerhaps you are missing the point. People are working very hard for civilization to work from the sewage workers, to grid technicians to utility workers to the rest of society. Every society in history has recognized and rewarded its achievers and geniuses and will continue to. Ergo things are working as expected. No psychological intervention or incentives are required. However this gratuitous need to create a mythology of the 'productive' ignores that this is infact standard behavior by the vast majority, and society at large and by its very need to exist fabricates the existence of a population of slackers, the lazy and unproductive which exaggerates fringe slacker behavior and is not consistent with reality. This is what makes it toxic.
- SubuSS 8y ago- are you asserting working hard is the same as being highly productive? - are you asserting that people not contributing continuously/coasting by is not a thing or is only marginal or fringe? - what is in your opinion the difference between making a living vs making a difference to the society you are in? Are they the same?