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>Trafficking victims? They will be vastly better served by a well regulated workplace. why?

colinb 9y ago
I think the obvious answer is because they could complain to the police if they were under threat. Of course, it being the obvious answer doesn't preclude it being nonsense, so feel free to tell me why I'm wrong.
- jzymbaluk 9y ago
  I think the more obvious answer is that if the market is well-regulated and above-board, there is no need for the shady unregulated black market where kidnapping and human trafficking are things that happen.
  - dwighttk 9y ago
    Then why are the Netherlands "a source, destination, and transit country for men, women, and children subjected to sex trafficking and forced labor"[1]? [1]https://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/countries/2017/271251.htm https://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/countries/2017/271251...
Broken_Hippo 9y ago
When it is all illegal, law enforcement tends to go for obvious prostitution and when they are lucky, they can help someone that is being trafficked. When prostitution is a well-regulated legal thing, law enforcement can narrow its focus to folks being trafficked simply because they don't have to investigate voluntary prostitution.
sudosteph 9y ago
I don't know why you got downvoted for questioning this line, I think the original commenter needed more support for that claim. Statistics I can found show that human trafficking rates actually increase when legalization happens, since demand increases: https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-prostitution-increase-human-trafficking/ https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-... I might argue though that the countries who have legalized it so far are not taking enough steps to regulate it safely though. If Netherlands and the like can fix their system to actually reduce trafficking while allowing sex work, then this claim could be made one day. But there isn't research available that I could find which supports that this is the case in any legalized country today.
on_and_off 9y ago
Let's say is a regulated profession where you register to the state, have a certificate, get tested, the client can pay with their phone/credit-card. Sounds like it would be way harder to exploit trafficking victims in that environment than in one where prostitution stays in the shadows.

I think the obvious answer is because they could complain to the police if they were under threat. Of course, it being the obvious answer doesn't preclude it being nonsense, so feel free to tell me why I'm wrong.

jzymbaluk 9y ago
I think the more obvious answer is that if the market is well-regulated and above-board, there is no need for the shady unregulated black market where kidnapping and human trafficking are things that happen.
- dwighttk 9y ago
  Then why are the Netherlands "a source, destination, and transit country for men, women, and children subjected to sex trafficking and forced labor"[1]? [1]https://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/countries/2017/271251.htm https://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/countries/2017/271251...

Broken_Hippo 9y ago

When it is all illegal, law enforcement tends to go for obvious prostitution and when they are lucky, they can help someone that is being trafficked. When prostitution is a well-regulated legal thing, law enforcement can narrow its focus to folks being trafficked simply because they don't have to investigate voluntary prostitution.

sudosteph 9y ago

I don't know why you got downvoted for questioning this line, I think the original commenter needed more support for that claim. Statistics I can found show that human trafficking rates actually increase when legalization happens, since demand increases: https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-prostitution-increase-human-trafficking/ https://orgs.law.harvard.edu/lids/2014/06/12/does-legalized-... I might argue though that the countries who have legalized it so far are not taking enough steps to regulate it safely though. If Netherlands and the like can fix their system to actually reduce trafficking while allowing sex work, then this claim could be made one day. But there isn't research available that I could find which supports that this is the case in any legalized country today.

on_and_off 9y ago

Let's say is a regulated profession where you register to the state, have a certificate, get tested, the client can pay with their phone/credit-card. Sounds like it would be way harder to exploit trafficking victims in that environment than in one where prostitution stays in the shadows.