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This is something that I'm not sure how I feel about in general. I'm not really interested in learning any particular framework (because there seem to be about

This is something that I'm not sure how I feel about in general. I'm not really interested in learning any particular framework (because there seem to be about a billion and the landscape changes every day), but then again re-inventing the wheel over and over is never fun, even if learning something new. I'm hoping that something like React might be quite instructive to use and study in looking at its design choices and API structure - and also to learn _why_ someone might want to use it and what the problems are in JS/Front end development that it's there to solve...

tomc1985 9y ago
The thing is, you aren't reinventing the wheel. There is a certain amount of repetition in programming... you will always need to sort a list, or iterate a for loop, or assign a couple of variables. There is a re-occurring thread of inventors (especially on here) building things that are more complex than necessary, and certainly more complicated than the problem they are working on. React, Angular, Electron, and a lot of other tools all use 1000 words where 100 would do. If you go through programming thinking that that is normal, or acceptable, you are doing more harm to the ecosystem and your own knowledge than if you had "reinvented the wheel" a couple of times on smaller tasks. In the long run neither frameworks nor languages matter. If programming to you is reaching for the latest framework du-jour then you will find yourself left in the dust unless you keep with technology's futile and arbitrarily-hastened pace. (And no, I do not consider it OK that this is considered necessary) But if you master the concepts of what the tools do... then you start seeing just how badly and inefficiently they are written. Then you find yourself bypassing them, and simultaneously completing projects faster than ever while writing bespoke code that fits your requirements perfectly, and is also much easier to maintain (because hey you wrote it)
- sametmax 9y ago
  > In the long run neither frameworks nor languages matter. While I agree with this statement, a real life project include several people, some new to the projects, some good, some not, some with experience and some young. It requires communication and sharing things. And tooling helps a lot with that.

tomc1985 9y ago

The thing is, you aren't reinventing the wheel. There is a certain amount of repetition in programming... you will always need to sort a list, or iterate a for loop, or assign a couple of variables. There is a re-occurring thread of inventors (especially on here) building things that are more complex than necessary, and certainly more complicated than the problem they are working on. React, Angular, Electron, and a lot of other tools all use 1000 words where 100 would do. If you go through programming thinking that that is normal, or acceptable, you are doing more harm to the ecosystem and your own knowledge than if you had "reinvented the wheel" a couple of times on smaller tasks. In the long run neither frameworks nor languages matter. If programming to you is reaching for the latest framework du-jour then you will find yourself left in the dust unless you keep with technology's futile and arbitrarily-hastened pace. (And no, I do not consider it OK that this is considered necessary) But if you master the concepts of what the tools do... then you start seeing just how badly and inefficiently they are written. Then you find yourself bypassing them, and simultaneously completing projects faster than ever while writing bespoke code that fits your requirements perfectly, and is also much easier to maintain (because hey you wrote it)

sametmax 9y ago
> In the long run neither frameworks nor languages matter. While I agree with this statement, a real life project include several people, some new to the projects, some good, some not, some with experience and some young. It requires communication and sharing things. And tooling helps a lot with that.