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Because there are no junior developer jobs advertised. That’s almost not sarcastic. Realistically though there is a lot ambiguity over what defines a senior de

Because there are no junior developer jobs advertised. That’s almost not sarcastic. Realistically though there is a lot ambiguity over what defines a senior dev. If postings said 10-15 years experience or experience in building stable and complex architecture across the whole lifecycle...or something similar...that would clarify things.

noir_lord 9y ago
I'm refactoring a system that was written by someone with '20 years' experience. As far as I can tell it was the same 3mths repeated 80 times. I've got 11 years working on the web (and if we count the first time I sold software, 21 years as a developer). Time is only a rough approximation of skill.
crowbahr 9y ago
It's very confusing honestly. If I wanted to apply for a job right now I've got 1 year professional iOS development experience and 2 years Android... So I don't really feel like a senior Android developer at all but junior positions are incredibly scarce. Most places I've seen are asking for a lot more experience or just saying senior with "deep knowledge of Android framework"... Whatever that is supposed to mean. Like are you asking me to know the exact implementation of the stock ArrayAdapter for ListView so that I can tell you why we'd need a custom one or are you looking for someone to debug Dalvik/kernal issues? Like I can architecture good clean code (and have done so for personal projects as well as professional) but I still feel junior because it feels like junior should until be 4+ years of experience.
- lainga 9y ago
  >Like are you asking me to know the exact implementation of the stock ArrayAdapter for ListView so that I can tell you why we'd need a custom one or are you looking for someone to debug Dalvik/kernal issues? In my experience, both. They will hire for someone who knows every detail of one field, and once you're hired, put you to work on a 5-year-old bug queue for a technology you know nothing about.
  - crowbahr 9y ago
    Joy. Doesn't really entice me to leave the startup I work at.
stevenwoo 9y ago
I found several in the April jobs posting. Not a lot but there were several for interns and 1-3 (max) years experience.

noir_lord 9y ago

I'm refactoring a system that was written by someone with '20 years' experience. As far as I can tell it was the same 3mths repeated 80 times. I've got 11 years working on the web (and if we count the first time I sold software, 21 years as a developer). Time is only a rough approximation of skill.

crowbahr 9y ago

It's very confusing honestly. If I wanted to apply for a job right now I've got 1 year professional iOS development experience and 2 years Android... So I don't really feel like a senior Android developer at all but junior positions are incredibly scarce. Most places I've seen are asking for a lot more experience or just saying senior with "deep knowledge of Android framework"... Whatever that is supposed to mean. Like are you asking me to know the exact implementation of the stock ArrayAdapter for ListView so that I can tell you why we'd need a custom one or are you looking for someone to debug Dalvik/kernal issues? Like I can architecture good clean code (and have done so for personal projects as well as professional) but I still feel junior because it feels like junior should until be 4+ years of experience.

lainga 9y ago
>Like are you asking me to know the exact implementation of the stock ArrayAdapter for ListView so that I can tell you why we'd need a custom one or are you looking for someone to debug Dalvik/kernal issues? In my experience, both. They will hire for someone who knows every detail of one field, and once you're hired, put you to work on a 5-year-old bug queue for a technology you know nothing about.
- crowbahr 9y ago
  Joy. Doesn't really entice me to leave the startup I work at.

stevenwoo 9y ago

I found several in the April jobs posting. Not a lot but there were several for interns and 1-3 (max) years experience.