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<s> Such a big problem with people hoping to be rewarded with political influence. Even Paul McCartney has been diluting Youtube with extremist videos[1] about

by hjek 9y ago

<s> Such a big problem with people hoping to be rewarded with political influence. Even Paul McCartney has been diluting Youtube with extremist videos[1] about veganism. </s> [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnNFryHonQo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnNFryHonQo

mrtksn 9y ago
I think I just triggered a Vegan :) I have respect for Vegans despite being a huge meat lover. What I mean by extremism is that Vegans are extreme and controversial form certain philosophies and eating habits and those serious about Veganism more often than not claiming that people who eat meat are murderers and should be treated as such, framing this as "Us the spotless goodies vs them unredeemable baddies". In my books, that's extremism. But hey, I get your point and I'm more than excited about lab grown burgers so we can have all the meat we want without harming the animals.
- acjohnson55 9y ago
  I think you may be conflating vegans in general with extremist vegans. Perhaps most normal vegans simply don't create YouTube content.
  - logfromblammo 9y ago
    Vegans are already extremist vegetarians. Extremist vegans are extremism squared.
- bloak 9y ago
  We already have Quorn burgers and they're great. The problem with going vegan isn't burgers; it's decent cheese, and milk to put in my tea. And something to replace eggs in cake. And something to make boots out of if veganism is to go beyond food. I hope these problems will be solved one day. We can't stop animals from getting harmed. They harm each other in the wild in terrible ways. All we can do is keep our own hands and mouths clean and avoid trashing the environment with livestock farming on an industrial scale.
  - naasking 9y ago
    Interesting note, veganism effectively requires the extinction of most farm animals, since these species very likely could not survive in the wild.
    - bloak 9y ago
      It is already true that most (nearly all?) breeds of domestic animal are no longer used for food: they are kept as pets, in effect, in farms that specialise in preserving unusual breeds and displaying them to the public, with notices next to the pens explaining how there are only 150 of them left and feeding time is at 3.30pm if you want to watch. The same fate awaits today's popular "production" breeds, whether they are replaced by Quorn or by an improved breed.
  - DennisP 9y ago
    Those other things are actually easier than lab-grown meat. There are startups right now working on lab-grown milk, egg whites, and leather, expecting to get products to market in the next couple years. For details, see the excellent new book Clean Meat. https://www.amazon.com/Clean-Meat-Growing-Without-Revolutionize-ebook/dp/B074ZW6PBG https://www.amazon.com/Clean-Meat-Growing-Without-Revolution...

by hjek 9y ago

mrtksn 9y ago

I think I just triggered a Vegan :) I have respect for Vegans despite being a huge meat lover. What I mean by extremism is that Vegans are extreme and controversial form certain philosophies and eating habits and those serious about Veganism more often than not claiming that people who eat meat are murderers and should be treated as such, framing this as "Us the spotless goodies vs them unredeemable baddies". In my books, that's extremism. But hey, I get your point and I'm more than excited about lab grown burgers so we can have all the meat we want without harming the animals.

acjohnson55 9y ago
I think you may be conflating vegans in general with extremist vegans. Perhaps most normal vegans simply don't create YouTube content.
- logfromblammo 9y ago
  Vegans are already extremist vegetarians. Extremist vegans are extremism squared.
bloak 9y ago
We already have Quorn burgers and they're great. The problem with going vegan isn't burgers; it's decent cheese, and milk to put in my tea. And something to replace eggs in cake. And something to make boots out of if veganism is to go beyond food. I hope these problems will be solved one day. We can't stop animals from getting harmed. They harm each other in the wild in terrible ways. All we can do is keep our own hands and mouths clean and avoid trashing the environment with livestock farming on an industrial scale.
- naasking 9y ago
  Interesting note, veganism effectively requires the extinction of most farm animals, since these species very likely could not survive in the wild.
  - bloak 9y ago
    It is already true that most (nearly all?) breeds of domestic animal are no longer used for food: they are kept as pets, in effect, in farms that specialise in preserving unusual breeds and displaying them to the public, with notices next to the pens explaining how there are only 150 of them left and feeding time is at 3.30pm if you want to watch. The same fate awaits today's popular "production" breeds, whether they are replaced by Quorn or by an improved breed.
- DennisP 9y ago
  Those other things are actually easier than lab-grown meat. There are startups right now working on lab-grown milk, egg whites, and leather, expecting to get products to market in the next couple years. For details, see the excellent new book Clean Meat. https://www.amazon.com/Clean-Meat-Growing-Without-Revolutionize-ebook/dp/B074ZW6PBG https://www.amazon.com/Clean-Meat-Growing-Without-Revolution...