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To be fair Apple products have a very long life compared to some competition.
by rimliu 9y ago
To be fair Apple products have a very long life compared to some competition.
- EpicEng 9y agoNot when my four year old drops the iPad on my tile floor.
- executesorder66 9y agoDon't give your four year old an iPad then.
- paulcole 9y agoHaving a kid is among the worst decisions a person can make for the environment. A childless person could smash iPads all they wanted and not make a dent in comparison.
- njarboe 9y agoUnless one of the kids you raise does something really great to improve the world. Not having kids to help the environment has no chance of working unless there is a world government that enforces the policy on everyone. This idea that not having children is a great good should be put rest. Raising children well is a lot of hard work and anyone who would do it well should be encouraged to have them.
- paulcole 9y ago> Unless one of the kids you raise does something really great to improve the world. This is like saying “if he grows up to be a pro basketball player, he’ll be rich.” Should be pretty obvious that it’s an astronomical longshot at best. Whether a child is raised well or not has nothing to do with their effect on the environment. Simply existing in the modern world clearly has a huge cost.
- njarboe 9y agoOverall net positive environmental impact over the generations I guess would be a better way of stating it. A culture that believes in not breeding (for any reason) will not last very long.
- paulcole 9y ago> Overall net positive environmental impact over the generations I guess would be a better way of stating it. Multiple generations just multiplies the negative impact- it doesn't reverse it. At some point (which we may discover sooner rather than later) humanity's impact will be beyond repair.
- EpicEng 9y agoOdd that I wasn't thinking about the environment when my wife and I discussed having children. Are you serious?
- reformedjuju 9y agoFound the evolutionary dead-end.
- paulcole 9y agoYes. Just less delusional about the impact my choices have than most people. It's fine to choose to have a kid. But don't fool yourself into thinking you're making a responsible choice when it comes to the environmental impact of doing so.
- EpicEng 9y agoA South Park episode comes to mind... http://gph.is/2bjK3lK http://gph.is/2bjK3lK I just don't know where you get off telling people they shouldn't have kids. Maybe you're just immature, I don't know, but there's nothing to be gained from it.
- paulcole 9y agoI specifically said, "It's fine to choose to have a kid." My point is that if a person is concerned about the environment and the toll humanity is taking on it, recognize the affect your personal choice is having.
- EpicEng 9y ago>It's fine to choose to have a kid. Thanks for your blessing. It's everything else you said )moreso the way in which you said it) that's wrong.
- paulcole 9y agoWould you judge someone who said they were environmentally conscious but lived in a McMansion and drove a hummer? I don't see why having kids is any different.
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- greglindahl 9y agoNot only is this true -- I've twice used iPhones for 4 years before replacing them, with full software updates the entire time -- there are also plenty of 3rd parties who can repair things like cracked screens and tired batteries.
- oculusthrift 9y agohuh, my battery runs down, GPS breaks, and software gets too slow for the aged harwdware after about 2 years everytime.
- greglindahl 9y agoSo did you go for the $89 battery replacement, or were you lucky and got it for $29 because of the cpu-throttling problem?
- keitarofujiwara 9y agoIs this an actual statistic or is it your impression in general?
- greglindahl 9y agoFor software updates, it's hard to imagine that any other phone, tablet, or laptop can compare. For example, I'm typing this on a "late 2012" mac mini, which is running the latest OS X.
- NiveaGeForce 9y agoI use a 2010 laptop running the latest Windows 10.
- greglindahl 9y agoCongrats, you're a pretty rare user. You don't have to google for very long to discover a large number of people complaining about forced Windows 10 updates. The equivalent situation for OS X is that almost everyone updates. This is especially visible on phones. Twice I've had a 4 year iPhone, twice it ran the latest software. There are very few Android phones for which this is true.
- wor3q 9y agoWhere I live it's pretty common to have a 6-7 year old gaming PC with SSD, and RAM upgrade among less tech savvy people. They are fast enough to do web browsing and media consumption. i5-5350u from newest Macbook Air is actually way slower than 9 year old i7-960, and it's sufficient for most people. Four year old Nexus 6P has latest system version. Android One phones will have it too. Time to live was a big difference in favor of Apple few years ago, but it's getting way better for Android phones now.
- saagarjha 9y agoYou're being incredibly disingenuous. > Where I live it's pretty common to have a 6-7 year old gaming PC with SSD, and RAM upgrade among less tech savvy people. Why would a "less tech savvy" person have a gaming PC? > They are fast enough to do web browsing and media consumption. That's not what a gaming PC is for… > i5-5350u from newest Macbook Air is actually way slower than 9 year old i7-960, and it's sufficient for most people. 1. i7-960 is the processor from the Mac Pro. i5-5350u is from an ultraportable laptop. 2. The "newest Macbook Air" hasn't been substantially updated in around three to four years. > Four year old Nexus 6P has latest system version There's many things wrong with this statement, so let me break it down. 1. Nexus 6P came out in September 2015, so it's not even three years old yet. 2. Nexus 6P will not be getting the Android P update, which is currently in beta. 3. Nexus 6P is the high-end flagship phone literally backed by Google. No other Android phone is going to get updates as long as it does. 4. iPhone 6, which came out in 2014, will most likely be getting the update for iOS 12.
- Konryan 9y agoI'm not sure - from my experience it seems they've been going further and further along the road of planned obsolescence.