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What in the actual fuck? I can't fathom how this would even theoretically work. Like people ostensibly would just memorize every api and library they might ev

What in the actual fuck? I can't fathom how this would even theoretically work. Like people ostensibly would just memorize every api and library they might ever have to use in advance?

commandlinefan 9y ago
> memorize every api and library Outside of work hours, of course. You're paid to program, not to learn.
- astrodust 9y ago
  Maybe at a hell company like this example, but in most that are sane you're encouraged to learn on the job. At the end of the day you're not paid to program, you're paid to solve problems, and typically that's easiest to achieve by producing code. Sometimes the problem is you don't know a particular language or toolkit even if it's the best fit for a problem domain...
  - makapuf 9y ago
    Sure you are. But I dont pat consultants to learn on the job. Those people were consultants and while I'd rather fire someone who didn't learn anything during a year internally, I'm definitely not paying a consultant to learn what s/he has been sold by his firm to be an expert on.
    - astrodust 9y ago
      You pay a consultant to understand your problem and sometimes solve it. If you've hired them and they don't know your domain then you're going to need to give them time to learn. It's on you for hiring someone that didn't already know everything. Don't expect them to put in free time to understand whatever infrastructure and code you have in place.
- recursive 9y ago
  Wow. So it's acceptable to spend a month re-inventing a wheel, but not one hour learning that it already exists? I wouldn't have thought such a backwards employer exists.
  - mar77i 9y ago
    ...backwards employer? NIH.
- inestyne 9y ago
  Jeez if my guys didnt learn on the job they’d know only the wrong things. If anything, lol... Surely what they learnt at bootcamp is less than worthless. :)
- goatlover 9y ago
  You can't be serious! What if you need to look up something? Is google forbidden too? Do you only pay programmers who have everything memorized? And isn't programming a matter of continuous learning? How is anyone supposed to do a job like that and not be learning? You really expect your employees to learn everything they need to do their job outside of work? WTF?
rukuu001 9y ago
Know a guy who was "fired" (de-contracted) first day of a new gig in London for having the K&R C book on his desk.

What in the actual fuck? I can't fathom how this would even theoretically work. Like people ostensibly would just memorize every api and library they might ever have to use in advance?

commandlinefan 9y ago

> memorize every api and library Outside of work hours, of course. You're paid to program, not to learn.

astrodust 9y ago
Maybe at a hell company like this example, but in most that are sane you're encouraged to learn on the job. At the end of the day you're not paid to program, you're paid to solve problems, and typically that's easiest to achieve by producing code. Sometimes the problem is you don't know a particular language or toolkit even if it's the best fit for a problem domain...
- makapuf 9y ago
  Sure you are. But I dont pat consultants to learn on the job. Those people were consultants and while I'd rather fire someone who didn't learn anything during a year internally, I'm definitely not paying a consultant to learn what s/he has been sold by his firm to be an expert on.
  - astrodust 9y ago
    You pay a consultant to understand your problem and sometimes solve it. If you've hired them and they don't know your domain then you're going to need to give them time to learn. It's on you for hiring someone that didn't already know everything. Don't expect them to put in free time to understand whatever infrastructure and code you have in place.
recursive 9y ago
Wow. So it's acceptable to spend a month re-inventing a wheel, but not one hour learning that it already exists? I wouldn't have thought such a backwards employer exists.
- mar77i 9y ago
  ...backwards employer? NIH.
inestyne 9y ago
Jeez if my guys didnt learn on the job they’d know only the wrong things. If anything, lol... Surely what they learnt at bootcamp is less than worthless. :)
goatlover 9y ago
You can't be serious! What if you need to look up something? Is google forbidden too? Do you only pay programmers who have everything memorized? And isn't programming a matter of continuous learning? How is anyone supposed to do a job like that and not be learning? You really expect your employees to learn everything they need to do their job outside of work? WTF?

rukuu001 9y ago

Know a guy who was "fired" (de-contracted) first day of a new gig in London for having the K&R C book on his desk.