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Bike shares are great even if you have a great bicycling city. I myself am a Very Serious Cyclists, more than 200 miles per week, and I still use the bike shar

Bike shares are great even if you have a great bicycling city. I myself am a Very Serious Cyclists, more than 200 miles per week, and I still use the bike share at least weekly. Just today I had to take my car to the shop, then I took a train to another place and there was a Lime Bike so I jumped on that and went to my destination. I have no idea why people complain about bike shares, dockless or docked.

thezilch 9y ago
They get piled up against buildings. They exacerbate the problem that many US roads have no place for cyclists, and alternatively, cyclists incorrectly will use sidewalks. All said, in the current state, more cycling is creating a bigger problem and not solving the hard ones. Cycling is awesome. Let's fix how they coexist on roads.
- ebikelaw 9y ago
  Literally nobody has ever been killed by a shared bike ridden improperly upon a sidewalk. Meanwhile people are killed every day by cars on sidewalks, and we're all headed for extinction from climate change caused by cars no matter how operated. Don't tell me I am supposed to care about the infinitesimal imaginary harm of someone who chooses a bicycle, especially if that person would have normally chosen a car. As for "piled up against buildings" just give me a break already. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&q=car+crashed+into+a+house https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&q=car+crash... The aesthetic argument is by far the stupidest argument against bike shares.
  - BoorishBears 9y ago
    A car crashing into a building is a news story. A misplaced share bike is daily life in cities with lots of shares. I’m not particularly against them, but they can turn into more of a nuisance than a benefit quickly.
    - ebikelaw 9y ago
      The American sidewalk on which I stand as I write this comment is almost impassable from all the cars parked on it. The idea that “dockless” bikes are an even slight intrusion upon the American streetscape is just so stupid that I can barely bring myself to argue over it.
      - BoorishBears 9y ago
        That’s a bit rude. I don’t get what your point is anyways. Cars are an eyesore so what’s one more eyesore? Not to mention the problem is vandalized and misplaced bikes, not bikes. I don’t mind bikes getting used taking space. How many cars do you see up on cinder blocks blocking the road? That’s the equivalent of a vandalized share bike strewn across a sidewalk.
        ebikelaw 9y ago
        I can't even tell if you're kidding, to be honest. Disabled cars in and upon the public way are a daily sight in my town. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1329538000569&set=pb.1294536890.-2207520000.1523311763.&type=3&theater https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1329538000569&set=pb...
        BoorishBears 9y ago
        See how you had to qualify it as in your town? This is illegal, and uncommon. Maybe you live in a rundown area with a poor rule of law, but the norm is a car in the road gets towed and it’s owner pays. Are the share bikes getting “towed” and their owners billed?
BoorishBears 9y ago
>I have no idea why people complain about bike shares, dockless or docked. You like the bike shares you’ve used, or you don’t know why people complain? Because if it’s the latter, the main reason is they can easily become a nuisance: https://www.twitter.com/hashtag/DocklessBikeFail https://www.twitter.com/hashtag/DocklessBikeFail People abuse them, and when/if the programs fail you end up with stories like this: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/25/chinas-bike-share-graveyard-a-monument-to-industrys-arrogance https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/25/chinas-bike-...
- ebikelaw 9y ago
  I don’t know what you’re trying to show me with that first link. It’s two scooters parked in a street parking spot that would normally be occupied by only one car. To me that’s a huge victory for urban America over the automobile.
  - BoorishBears 9y ago
    That’s a link to hundreds of images... that being said, which parking spot? The pictures I see are knocked over bikes thrown about like a child's poorly kept toys. Contrary to what you may believe, you’re not allowed to leave a car wherever you feel like it at a given moment. You can’t even leave your own person sprawled out on whatever public surface pleases you. No idea how this is a “huge victory”
    - ebikelaw 9y ago
      The first image that Twitter shows me for that hash tag is this one, which contains neither bikes nor failure. https://twitter.com/clair_415/status/981749790001135616 https://twitter.com/clair_415/status/981749790001135616
      - BoorishBears 9y ago
        Leaving rideshare scooters in a commercial district parking space is a fail. Cars pay and have time limits. Judging by your username and a serious hatred for cars, I'm guessing you might be letting bias cloud your judgement here...

thezilch 9y ago

They get piled up against buildings. They exacerbate the problem that many US roads have no place for cyclists, and alternatively, cyclists incorrectly will use sidewalks. All said, in the current state, more cycling is creating a bigger problem and not solving the hard ones. Cycling is awesome. Let's fix how they coexist on roads.

ebikelaw 9y ago
Literally nobody has ever been killed by a shared bike ridden improperly upon a sidewalk. Meanwhile people are killed every day by cars on sidewalks, and we're all headed for extinction from climate change caused by cars no matter how operated. Don't tell me I am supposed to care about the infinitesimal imaginary harm of someone who chooses a bicycle, especially if that person would have normally chosen a car. As for "piled up against buildings" just give me a break already. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&q=car+crashed+into+a+house https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&q=car+crash... The aesthetic argument is by far the stupidest argument against bike shares.
- BoorishBears 9y ago
  A car crashing into a building is a news story. A misplaced share bike is daily life in cities with lots of shares. I’m not particularly against them, but they can turn into more of a nuisance than a benefit quickly.
  - ebikelaw 9y ago
    The American sidewalk on which I stand as I write this comment is almost impassable from all the cars parked on it. The idea that “dockless” bikes are an even slight intrusion upon the American streetscape is just so stupid that I can barely bring myself to argue over it.
    - BoorishBears 9y ago
      That’s a bit rude. I don’t get what your point is anyways. Cars are an eyesore so what’s one more eyesore? Not to mention the problem is vandalized and misplaced bikes, not bikes. I don’t mind bikes getting used taking space. How many cars do you see up on cinder blocks blocking the road? That’s the equivalent of a vandalized share bike strewn across a sidewalk.
      - ebikelaw 9y ago
        I can't even tell if you're kidding, to be honest. Disabled cars in and upon the public way are a daily sight in my town. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1329538000569&set=pb.1294536890.-2207520000.1523311763.&type=3&theater https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1329538000569&set=pb...
        BoorishBears 9y ago
        See how you had to qualify it as in your town? This is illegal, and uncommon. Maybe you live in a rundown area with a poor rule of law, but the norm is a car in the road gets towed and it’s owner pays. Are the share bikes getting “towed” and their owners billed?

BoorishBears 9y ago

>I have no idea why people complain about bike shares, dockless or docked. You like the bike shares you’ve used, or you don’t know why people complain? Because if it’s the latter, the main reason is they can easily become a nuisance: https://www.twitter.com/hashtag/DocklessBikeFail https://www.twitter.com/hashtag/DocklessBikeFail People abuse them, and when/if the programs fail you end up with stories like this: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/25/chinas-bike-share-graveyard-a-monument-to-industrys-arrogance https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/25/chinas-bike-...

ebikelaw 9y ago
I don’t know what you’re trying to show me with that first link. It’s two scooters parked in a street parking spot that would normally be occupied by only one car. To me that’s a huge victory for urban America over the automobile.
- BoorishBears 9y ago
  That’s a link to hundreds of images... that being said, which parking spot? The pictures I see are knocked over bikes thrown about like a child's poorly kept toys. Contrary to what you may believe, you’re not allowed to leave a car wherever you feel like it at a given moment. You can’t even leave your own person sprawled out on whatever public surface pleases you. No idea how this is a “huge victory”
  - ebikelaw 9y ago
    The first image that Twitter shows me for that hash tag is this one, which contains neither bikes nor failure. https://twitter.com/clair_415/status/981749790001135616 https://twitter.com/clair_415/status/981749790001135616
    - BoorishBears 9y ago
      Leaving rideshare scooters in a commercial district parking space is a fail. Cars pay and have time limits. Judging by your username and a serious hatred for cars, I'm guessing you might be letting bias cloud your judgement here...