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To be fair you can't go very far without running into garden walls in Apple land. It doesn't just apply to development. Want to change your launcher / dialer
by skrowl 9y ago
To be fair you can't go very far without running into garden walls in Apple land. It doesn't just apply to development.
Want to change your launcher / dialer / etc? WALL!
Want to run a different web browser (an ACTUAL web browser complete with JS / CSS engine). WALL!
Want emulators or adult-themed apps? WALL!
Want to develop for iOS or macOS on Windows or Linux? WALL!
The list goes on and on...
- millstone 9y agoChromeOS is significantly more locked down than macOS, developer mode notwithstanding. Firefox for iOS may use WebKit, but Firefox for ChromeOS isn't even a thing.
- eigenvector 9y agoConversely, a ChromeOS device is much less locked down than an iOS device, since you can run full Linux (with root) in a chroot on a ChromeOS device.
- millstone 9y agoWe may be doomed to an infinite regress here. After all, a Chromecast is more locked down than an iPad... Someone considering running chrooted Linux on a Chromebook is going to be more interested in a Mac than an iPad, so IMO that's the more useful comparison. I did run Crouton on a ChromeOS device and came to regret it. ChromeOS devices don't run a mainline kernel, they run something that Google provides which eventually stops receiving updates. The audio app I wanted to run required a newer kernel, and there was no way to get it short of forward-porting a bunch of device support and building it myself. IMO for Linux development, users are better served by a real Linux laptop than by a ChromeOS chimera.
- jsight 9y agoI would prefer a powerful ChromeOS device with the ability to run Linux containers over an iPad or a Mac. I suspect that I'm not the only developer who thinks that way. But I sort of agree with you too. I'm running Linux desktops rather than Chrome machines for that reason.
- jacksmith21006 9y agoI would prefer a ChromeOS box as it has commercially supported Linux drivers and it is Linux versus OS x close but not Linux. Plus going to be far more secure and optimized for the hardware.
- andybak 9y ago1. That was intended as a virtue not an omission 2. It's no longer true now you've got Android app support. Whether you think this is a good thing or a bad thing depends on your feelings about point 1. 3. "developer mode not withstanding" - well it is withstanding. You'd hear a lot less moaning about iOS if that had a similar mode.
- guiambros 9y ago> ...Firefox for ChromeOS isn't even a thing Uh? Most Chromebooks these days run Android apps, so you can install pretty much anything that can run on a regular Android smartphone -- including Firefox Quantum [1]. I haven't tried Firefox yet, but did install a bunch of things on my parents' notebooks - Skype, Android games, etc. Some have problems with the larger aspect ratio, but most run just fine. [1] https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-run-firefox-quantum-on-a-chromebook/ https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-run-firefox-quan...
- jacksmith21006 9y agoWhat? ChromeOS runs Android and gnu/Linux. Would say it far less locked down then anything. Can you explain as this does not appear to make any sense? Btw, also Google gives source code in addition. Or are confusing strong security with a wall? They are different.
- swiley 9y agoI thought cross compiling for OSX wasn't so bad.